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From Golden Combs

An Apiculture Mod By Aetherial Labs

Author: Vinter_Nacht, Texture Artist: AnxietyPealope
JSON Files Assist: Raccoon

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From Golden Combs introduces a new step (somewhat sideways) in the apiculture progression in the game.  No more need you be troubled by constantly replacing your skeps after harvesting them, or dealing with angry bees.  The clay pot hive consists of two components, the Brood Pot, and the Honey Pot. (Just called Clay pot Hive and Hive Top in the mod for now).  Both components are made using clay forming, and then fired in the pit kiln.  After firing them you can easily pick up the honey pot, but the brood pot will require an empty bag slot.

Once you have your new brood pot placed, you can move a colony in by right-clicking it with a populated skep.  Be sure to keep one populated skeps for creating new colonies though! The Clay Pot hive doesn't spread to other hives like a populated skep. However, you also don't need to destroy it to harvest it!  Once you place the honey pot on top of the hive and get the hive population over poor (just place flowers around it like with any hive) they'll start working on your next harvest.

Once the wax ring appears, take the top off and place it somewhere stable, and use a knife on it (right click it) to harvest the honeycomb!  Now you have a nice empty honey pot you can place back on top of your perfectly safe hive.

So long as it doesn't have a honey pot on it, you can pick up and move brood pots with and without bee colonies in it. Just pick them up in an empty bag slot.

 

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Current Features (As of 1.3.4):

     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Clay forming recipes for honey pot and brood pot.
     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Ability to place colonies in the brood pot using a populated skep.
     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Repeatable harvest by emptying the honey pot with a knife, and returning it to the brood pot.
     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Movable brood pots, both with and without a bee colony
     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Langstroth Hives - Multi-box hives with high capacity (and improved output), available in millions* of color combinations!
              smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Hive Components in 169 possible color combinations
                            From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Langstroth Superstructures (Known as Supers) -The base component of your hive
                            From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Langstroth Brood Boxes - Where your bees live!
                            From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Langstroth Bases - To keep your hive off the ground.
              smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Frames for your bees in 16 possible color combinations

     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Frame Racks - Used for lining, harvesting, and repairing your bee frames

* - Yes, millions. You can stack your individual hive parts in any order you want. To be a hive it must have a populated brood box at the top (Right click an empty brood box with a populated skep) a base at the bottom, and up to 4 supers stacked in between. Each individual part is available in up to 169 different color combinations, so the possible combinations are nearly endless!

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     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png  - Configuration Options
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Duration for a hive to fill configurable by hive type. (skep, ceramic, and langstroth)
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Change the height to which a hive can be stacked (default is 6 individual items. So up to two blocks high)
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Change maximum and minimum yield when harvesting a frame
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Change the durability of frames
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Optionally display time until the hive produces more comb



Coming Soon (?)
     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - New Utility/Vanity Items
            
smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Honey Jar

     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - New Bee Products
            
smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Propolis
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Bee Bread
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Pollen
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Royal Jelly

     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - New Hives
            
smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Layens Hives
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Warre Hives
            smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - New color variants of Ceramic and Langstroth Hives

     From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Bee species 
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Range of Temperature tolerances
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Flower preferences
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Attitudes (some are more defensive of their hive than others, even in domestic hives)
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Different rates of production for honey/wax

      From_Golden_Combs_No_Text_Small.png.d648533ecd9618c95cc91ce616ee7c01.png - Advanced hive maintenance
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Hive temperature
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Humidity
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Population
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Disease
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Hive collapse
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Swarming Mechanics
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - Pests (Wax moths, Hive Beetles, and Varroa Mites! Oh My!)
             smol_bee.png.13cc99f22149f236199c72c206efd8f3.png - More Predators (Mice? Skunks? More?)

 

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Versions 1.15.7-1.3.5-rc.4 -

  • Bugs -
    • Ceramic Pots will disappear if you right-click them without an open bag slot to pick them up.
      • It will be fixed in the upcoming 1.15.7-1.3.5-rc.4
    • Hives don't seem to properly balance hive-size vs available flowers/nearby skeps. Always show as large with any amount of flowers.
      • Aiming to fix in upcoming 1.15.7-1.3.5-rc.5

Versions 1.16.0-1.3.5-rc.1 - 1.16.-0 Versions Only Available To Patrons Until first 1.16 stable release

  • Bugs -
    • Ceramic Pots will disappear if you right-click them without an open bag slot to pick them up.
      • It will be fixed in the upcoming 1.16.0-1.3.5-rc.2
    • Hives don't seem to properly balance hive-size vs available flowers/nearby skeps. Always show as large with any amount of flowers.
      • It will be fixed in the upcoming 1.16.0-1.3.5-rc.2

 

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Just a preview of the beginning steps of the Langstroth hives.

Base.png.b5c4803cce08dfd98849cbbf4f1b363e.png The base upon which you'll build your hive

Super.png.0a9e109c71b9e8abe5c45b58186b08f9.png An individual "super" or honey box, where your bees will make and store wax and honey

BroodBase.png.5715ebfd3a52fa473e9da0ceea349ae0.png A brood box, arguably the most important part of the hive

CompleteHive.png.5085b04405f400660d0f7143fb93d375.png The maximum height to which you'll be able to build your hive!

 

These are just textured models, and there's a lot of logic that will have to go into making them do their trick.  Currently the intent is that you'll have to build and separate your hive one piece at a time.  The individual supers and the brood box will have to be carried in bag slots, while the base can go into your normal inventory.  When accessing your hive you'll have to deconstruct it piece by piece to get to each of the honey boxes, and then restack them.

For now, this is just being designed for immersion and my personal aesthetic tastes for interacting with the game.  Now, back to work!

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It's a legitimate strategy!  Some more excerpts from todays labors.

 

OpenSuperOneFrame.png  An open super with one frame

OpenSuperOneFullFrame.png  An open super with one full frame

OpenSuper10Frames.png  An open super with ten empty frames

OpenSuper10FullFrames.png  An open super with ten full frames

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From personal experience I can tell you that frames years if not decades and only really break if you mishandle them. We have some that grandpa hand made that were still in use or fine in storage until some small children decided to play with them. :P

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Now *that* is a solid point.  Perhaps durability could be configurable, with setting it to -1 disabling it.  Hmmm... I think waxed linen patches will be necessary for making the frames.  Kind of a VS stand-in for the guides put in some frames to help bees make straight combs.

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5 hours ago, Frederik Gryson said:

An idea I had for the crafting of the frames is a plank with a beeswax beneath it. That way this is a higher tech bee keeping apparatus that requires some development in your beekeeping already. 

And that is sort of supported by real life anyways. Beekeepers smear a bit of wax along the underside of the top section of a frame to give the bees a "guide". Though I'd say a Plank and 3 sticks for an "Empty frame", then add some amount of empty frames, maybe 5, and a beeswax together to get five "Prepared Frames" that can actually have bees build comb on them.

By the way, question for Vinter- are you planning on adding a need to "correct" and straighten out wax combs, like in real life? Maybe as an optional task you have to do with a knife, that increases output?

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2 hours ago, Travis Pluid said:

By the way, question for Vinter- are you planning on adding a need to "correct" and straighten out wax combs, like in real life? Maybe as an optional task you have to do with a knife, that increases output?

Please no that sounds just like busywork for busywork's sake.

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21 hours ago, Travis Pluid said:

And that is sort of supported by real life anyways. Beekeepers smear a bit of wax along the underside of the top section of a frame to give the bees a "guide". Though I'd say a Plank and 3 sticks for an "Empty frame", then add some amount of empty frames, maybe 5, and a beeswax together to get five "Prepared Frames" that can actually have bees build comb on them.

Empty Bee frames will require four sticks.
A completed frame will take waxed linen (linen patch +  beeswax) to make.
Waxed linen is either made from four waxed linen twine, or a linen patch & beeswax.
Frames take durability damage when you harvest them, and will be repairable either with waxed linen twice, or by replacing the waxed linen patch when fully damaged.
(Fully damaged frames turn into empty bee frames).

 

On 10/14/2021 at 10:13 AM, Frederik Gryson said:

An idea I had for the crafting of the frames is a plank with a beeswax beneath it. That way this is a higher tech bee keeping apparatus that requires some development in your beekeeping already. 

Your recipe will also end up being used, but not with this style of hive. There is a type of hive called a "Top Bar" hive or a "Warre" hive.  These essentially function similar to the above, but don't use a guide (like waxed linen) to guide the bees. It will be cheaper than Langstroth Hives as a result. 

But...
 

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Travis Pluid - By the way, question for Vinter- are you planning on adding a need to "correct" and straighten out wax combs, like in real life? Maybe as an optional task you have to do with a knife, that increases output?

19 hours ago, Hells Razer said:

Please no that sounds just like busywork for busywork's sake.

It's likely that Warre/Top Bar hives will require this kind of interaction to maximize output.

 

And now? An update that introduces the 'Super Stack'.  Since no part of the hive (excepting frames and their outputs, of course) will be storable in chests/storage vessels/etc... This is being provided as a convenient way to store your supers when not actively part of a hive.

 

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19 hours ago, l33tmaan said:

... I really want to toss a full stack of those into that lava pit.

You know... I can't think of a good reason I shouldn't make it possible to pick up that stack with CarryCapacity.
If I'm feeling really froggy, I might even try to figure out if there's a way to set a whole stack on a hive at once. XD

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Along with the above, I'm considering adding the following to further ease storage of Langstroth hive components.  Do note that including this shelving would also mean I reduce the size of both the current claypot hives, and the upcoming Brood Boxes that sit on top of Langstroth hives.  Not sure that's a problem.  I actually think I prefer the appearance of the more compact brood pot (The clay version)

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