New seraph faces – What do you think?

[Dark Thoughts]

2 hours ago, Krougal said:

It's the eyes, it is creepy that the iris and pupil are reversed and it just doesn't make any sense.

I always saw them as big googley eyes with massively dilated pupils, which reminds me too much of the other block game with its stupid chibi uwu kiddy styled crap. That's why the seraphs always stood out for me compared to the rest of the game. Aesthetically they don't seem to quite fit in.

[Krougal]

11 minutes ago, Dark Thoughts said:

I always saw them as big googley eyes with massively dilated pupils, which reminds me too much of the other block game with its stupid chibi uwu kiddy styled crap. That's why the seraphs always stood out for me compared to the rest of the game. Aesthetically they don't seem to quite fit in.

I had to google chibi uwu but lol, I still think the seraphs look worse.

The iris should be colored, the pupil should be black. It isn't cool. It isn't edgy. It's just creepy.

That along with the multiple equators is one of those extremely minor details that has no effect on gameplay whatsoever but still irks me to no end.

For a game that puts so much effort into being realistic, these are unrealistic things that serve no purpose.

 

 

Edited July 28, 2025 by Krougal

[Echo Weaver]

26 minutes ago, Krougal said:

I had to google chibi uwu but lol, I still think the seraphs look worse.

The iris should be colored, the pupil should be black. It isn't cool. It isn't edgy. It's just creepy.

Hmmm. I'm pretty sure the iris is colored. You have a large pupil with a small white light reflection, a colored iris, and no scelera.

Are you thinking of the small white light reflection as a pupil? That does sound creepy.

[Krougal]

1 minute ago, Echo Weaver said:

Hmmm. I'm pretty sure the iris is colored. You have a large pupil with a small white light reflection, a colored iris, and no scelera.

Are you thinking of the small white light reflection as a pupil? That does sound creepy.

I might be mixing my parts, but to make it simple, black center, color surrounding. The game appears to be backward.

[Echo Weaver]

Just now, Krougal said:

I might be mixing my parts, but to make it simple, black center, color surrounding. The game appears to be backward.

There is a big black center with color surrounding it. There are just no whites surrounding the color. The little white mark on the pupil is a light reflection.

[Krougal]

2 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

There is a big black center with color surrounding it. There are just no whites surrounding the color. The little white mark on the pupil is a light reflection.

Did it get changed? I can't really tell anymore since I have blue eyes and blue skin until the human skin tones mod is updated.

It's a little easier to see in the character creation since it is larger than in-game.

Edited July 28, 2025 by Krougal

[Svarrmir]

For myself I really like the design of the seraphs (what you could probably already guess from my profile picture). It's not just a generic looking humanoid but more like it's own thing that I associate with the game.

If you want a more normal human looking seraph faces you can try out this mod: https://mods.vintagestory.at/motifasfacerework

(Also we're kinda getting off-topic here?)

As for the new faces: I think they look better now but as previously said some of them look too angry/menacing for my taste.

[Krougal]

2 hours ago, Dark Thoughts said:

I always saw them as big googley eyes with massively dilated pupils, which reminds me too much of the other block game with its stupid chibi uwu kiddy styled crap. That's why the seraphs always stood out for me compared to the rest of the game. Aesthetically they don't seem to quite fit in.

Actually after discussing with @Echo Weaver and squinting closer at everything, your right. It's the giant pupil combined with the lack of a sclera. It is just creepy to me.

19 minutes ago, Svarrmir said:

For myself I really like the design of the seraphs (what you could probably already guess from my profile picture). It's not just a generic looking humanoid but more like it's own thing that I associate with the game.

If you want a more normal human looking seraph faces you can try out this mod: https://mods.vintagestory.at/motifasfacerework

(Also we're kinda getting off-topic here?)

As for the new faces: I think they look better now but as previously said some of them look too angry/menacing for my taste.

Here I thought it was just a weird looking generic humanoid. Changing skin colors to unnatural hues and making the eyes weird isn't exactly innovative.

That mod is hardly more normal looking. https://mods.vintagestory.at/hss#tab-description or https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/7658 are more like it, but both are broken by the latest update.

 

How is this off-topic?

[Dark Thoughts]

On 7/28/2025 at 11:42 PM, Krougal said:

Did it get changed?

No, and that's also exactly what the screenshots in the initial post of this thread show.

[MagpieOAO]

On 7/22/2025 at 3:29 PM, Sormiel said:

looks almost ... menacing?

 

The black are their pupils which are massively dilated from lives underground with the white being reflections and/or predators eyes dilate when they see prey.

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Edited July 30, 2025 by MagpieOAO

[Bomboclaat]

I think both faces, they each have their charms!

If they're new I'd like them to simply be new and not a replacement, meaning an optional selection in character creation, that way its a win win and nobody loses anything.

The old faces are just too damn cute and iconic for me to just cast aside. 

[Sormiel]

Hello, it's been a few weeks, but we've been cooking.

I wrote a suggestion for an additional "Friendly" face. Also, @Svarrmir and me are preparing a mod that will make the new faces slightly less menacing and somewhat resemble the old ones, but keep the new fidelity.
We want to get used to the new seraphs, just with a bit less tension on our faces! However, since their might still be changes, we'll wait with the upload until version 1.21 is released. (Soon?)

It seems that @ArtGnat is also working on a face mod, so if you're looking for changes, you might be interested in their plans, too. With multiple mods, everyone is bound to find what they are looking for.

If you have any suggestions for such a mod, let us know. Have a good one!

[ArtGnat]

4 hours ago, Sormiel said:

Also, @Svarrmir and me are preparing a mod that will make the new faces slightly less menacing and somewhat resemble the old ones, but keep the new fidelity.
We want to get used to the new seraphs, just with a bit less tension on our faces! However, since their might still be changes, we'll wait with the upload until version 1.21 is released. (Soon?)

I'm looking forward to checking it out when it's done!