Kalzamar

This will be my last post in this thread. Misconception, I have never played the other block game, no interest, I find it boring. I have played VS in 1.18, 1.19 and tried playing 1.20 and now 1.21, I have never liked shivers and bowtorns and kept hoping they would balance them, they never have (some say they have, but not enough, they still spawn in daylight on top of trees). After 1.20 and 1.21 and trying to play the game and not being able to play the game I payed for, I wrote this post. They are loosing players because of the changes they have/are doing. You can believe it or not, it IS happening. Nothing you say will change this fact. The devs patching out "exploits" are the devs saying, you are not to have fun the way you want, you have to do it the way we want. If players have fun using "exploits", they are having fun. You don't have to use those "exploits" if you don't want to, that is your choice. But the devs are taking away those choices. They are making the game less fun for some ppl, and for others it does not affect them. The only ppl it affects are the ones using the "exploits" not the ones not using them. In the same thinking, not being able to explore at night (the first night, don't say i can, I just have to git gud . . . really? thats your answer? come on!) is taking away fun for me, if others want to play dirt hut simulator at night, that is their choice, the choice has been taken away from me and others. Anybody who says VS has a good combat system is lying to themselves. It is a very well known fact that the combat system needs work. It is talked about by all content creators and streamers. And telling me I just have to learn to mod is insulting, what next you'll tell me I should just program my own game? if you say yes to this, do not respond to this post. All I'm saying is VS went from being my most favorite game, to my most rage inducing, because of the introduction of shivers and bowtorns, it is no longer fun for ME (if its still fun for you, yay for you) I will reiterate, minor changes are needed, gradually introduce shivers and bowtorns through story missions. Or, just balance them from the get go. Shivers move slightly slower than the player and bowtorns not hit with aimbot. I have heard of other balancing options discussed in streams but I cant recall the details. It is my choice to not play the game because its not what I payed for. if you wish to, that is your choice.

Nice to see you on here too. I'll be interested in seeing how Kura deals with them in the next series. From what I gather, Vintage story has become dirt hut simulator until you can make tier 2 armor. which is sad. The devs are doing the same thing 7dtd did, every time players finds a ways to play the game that is not to the devs liking, they patch it out or make changes that make it impossible. Like 7d2d they will loose a lot of players this way. hopefully they wake up and realize that the combat system is broken and do a full revamp. You cant have an open world game that you cant play open world. This was my favorite game, its now my most rage inducing. Games are supposed to be fun. This is not anymore.

the thing is with video games, you have to balance things, they didn't with these mobs. When you make enemies in games you have to be able to fight them or dodge. you cant. bowtorns have aim bot you cant dodge, you can put something between you and them, except at night you cant see them, and if you're in a field you cant put something between you and them. As for shivers, you cant outrun them, and cant kill them with melee or ranged weapons the first night. The answer I'm getting from everybody is to play dirt hut simulator or sleep, which is boring or wastes the one very limited resource, time. Or to learn to program so I mod the game myself, I can barely use Microsoft excel, I'm not going to learn to mod a game. What I'm saying is, I'm not the only one, the devs are alienating a lot of players with this, i know of some content creators that no longer play the game because of it. they are making an already very small community much smaller, I'm not gonna lie there are days where i wish i never bought the game. sure i could roll back to 1.19 but then i cant have any of the new content or mechanics. Again my hand is being forced. all I'm asking is to balance the mobs, or make it toggle off shivers and bowtorns at worldgen until they figure out how to balance them. shivers run a tad slower than the player and bowtorns not have aim bot. or to use the story missions to introduce the mobs gradually once you have the tools to deal with them. anything but, waste time in a dirt hut for a year.

sleeping through the night wastes time, time is the only resource that is truly limited in vs I'm being forced to waste it.

none of that was possible for me, night happened within 10 mins of spawn, all i had time to do was find a few cat tails, not enough for the shield, make armor, gather food, and boom its night, dead so, I could concentrate on getting enough dirt for a dirt hut, get food so i don't die of starvation and make a bed, sleep and waste 8 hours on sleeping. yay sooo productive and boring. i want to be out there, i cant be out there, so what's the point? i want to play an open world to be in the open world. I'm not playing dirt hut simulator.

so your answer is to hole up or sleep at night, thats boring, they could just balance the bowtorns and shivers.

explorer mode is not challenging enough, its just the bowtorns and shivers that are broken (unbalanced, no answer to them early game)

I was running full tilt at night in a field in low rift activity. Shivers caught up to me, bowtorns shot me, cant run to them, cant see them at night and shiver on my ass. cant build a defense while shivers are running at me and blowhorns shooting at me. couldn't make a shield, not enough cat tails in my spawn region. how can I approach combat early game if there are no answers to them early game. sleep, don't want to, hole up, don't want to (VERY BORING) . . . so die. so your answer is for someone that has no idea how to mod, to learn to mod to play a game, thanks but no thanks.

I have not been able to play the game since they added shivers and bowtorns, there is no answer to them early game, you HAVE to stay indoors or sleep. That is absolutely boring and detest that it is forced on me. Please for the love of god devs, fix this, make it so shivers run slightly slower than the player and bowtorns not have aim bot. I die running at night in low activity. If there is no plans to balance the game I wont be able to play. Please at the very least make it a world option to disable shivers and bowtorns. There are no mods that work for this. You have lost a player until then and I know I'm not the only one