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Eruannon

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  1. To be fair it seems to be copy of official 'about us' section on the website, https://www.vintagestory.at/aboutus.html/ which is much more reasonable place to show it.
  2. Frankly I have to apologise - It seems I have overgeneralized or messed up what 'Not possible' here was aimed at. I understood You as it's not possible to argue for article 5, rather than responding to crash save corruption claim, and answered with that assumption. I guess 'I dun goofed'. My bad. Once again - sorry for the misunderstanding.
  3. You forgot article 3 - where access was given without right - i.e. by adding it as additional payload not disclosed in source files - i.e. by deception, in a scope beyond permission given by users (users accept scope as written in description, and to that they can be inferred to have given their permission, but this code was undisclosed and unknown until someone decided to dig deeper into what crashes clients - i.e. due to false positive). and article 8, this time unfortunately on Anego part, where the official statement officially condones and excuses the actions in question. You say 'saves' I say 'logs', specifically the part where the code intentionally delayed the crash to manipulate logs into listing a false culprit https://hastebin.com/share/uqeyuhirof.markdown So unless You have legal assessment by actual lawyer, I'd personally change 'not possible' to 'unlikely' personally, as this situation is fishy AF.
  4. Let me explain then. First - what better position, outside of higher up the chain of command, to recreate malware introduced in modding library mod (or if You prefer - Modding API mod) is there, than Modding API programmer for base software? And fun fact - source code for his mods on GitHub, publicly, didn't have the code in question. It was bundled in the release versions instead. The malware was introduced in moddb versions of library mods - i.e. dependency mods, that are required by other mods to works as designed (which in turn can be required by even different modifications to work). This is so-called 'supply chain attack'. I used npm supply chain attack as direct comparison, as while the main software that user wanted to install wasn't compromised - underlying dependency - was, making high profile threat example of what supply chain attack CAN do - check Shai-Hulud supply chain attack, if You're interested in how it happened. As per claim for verification - supposedly the existence of the code was known to devs, and even description of it triggered no warning lights for scrutiny of the code that was deployed to moddb. I'm not entirely sure if this reassurance gives me any respite, especially as Tyron seems to condone the actions of Maltez. EDIT: quick addendum, as I have realized You may be under the wrong impression. What You see in the github You linked is... not an API. It is part of it. Specifically - public side endpoints of VS API. There is also call handler on the software side. Clone the github You linked and You will get definitions of how you can call the VS, but it will not tell You how the calls are handled on the VS side. Modding API programmer role does not limit anyone to public side only, but the handling of those calls. Handling which lies in core VS code, which I am pretty sure is not public.
  5. Funny... official website's 'about us' (https://www.vintagestory.at/aboutus.html/) says something else. Maltiez Mod API Programmer You know... perfect position to recreate the supply chain attack in main code with sufficient skill and intent by pretending the code is actively used for something else. It's not like e.g. npm didn't have similar problem.
  6. Fun fact - there's such a thing as 'disciplinary termination of employment', in case of egregious violations, such as... malware distribution. As per 'no chance' - please, I'd honestly appreciate if You at least made half-reasonable claims. npm, PyPi, Go and Packagist, few of bigger linux packages, far more widely used than VS, verified by multiple expert programmers, managed to be targets and vectors of supply chain attacks in 2026, but somehow, a one-person validation turns it into 'no-chance' for violations?
  7. Frankly I think it is high time I added my two cents here, as frankly I'd like to double check if I understood the statement by TyronX correctly. 1. Maltinez performed what could be argued illegal acts as per Directive 2013/40/EU, by adding malware to his library mods. And yes, I am using Malware with full intent and meaning behind it - specifically code which intentionally interferes with whole or part of information system (in this case - client) without right (i.e. without user's authorization, as each and every single of those mods were listed as library mods, rather than anti-cheat mods, which is classic example of supply-chain attack, recently shown also in one of linux libraries, where additional payload was added after normal commits by same user), more than that - code was reportedly NOT included in official source files for the mods, making the deception and intent extremely clear. Also - before this argument is used - no, 'but other mod was worse' is NOT an excuse in civilized world. Whitelisting of both users and mods is possible, and creation of mods that would facilitate it is possible as well. Vigilantism, unlike what comic books would like people to believe - is not legal in most, if not all, of Europe. 2. Worse yet - Dev team KNEW of the illegal acts in question, at least partially, and never bothered to check if by chance the 'anti-cheat' measures don't cross from 'ok, good, let's address it' to 'dude, you are aware it's literally illegal right?' 3. Even given benefit of the doubt completely, and ignoring the point 2 for now - once the scope, scale and manner was made quite clear to the community, including Maltinez' own admission of it being effectively malware - the Anego Studios will STILL continue cooperating with known malicious actor, under supposed supervision (which already has failed given moddb was supposedly curated as well) on the main codebase, rather than just on mods [ironically - I'd be willing to make a claim that You have the reaction backwards. He should've been removed completely from main project first and foremost as known malicious actor, and maybe consider removing him from mod projects, as his own reputation would follow him, rather than other way around]. 4. The official perspective of TyronX is that the execution in question (malware) is 'no big deal, as the correct targets were affected'. And here, I'd like to confirm, with TyronX preferably, whether his official stance is 'as long as correct targets were affected' it was fine with infecting large number of computers with malware via supply-chain attack, thus performing literal cybercrime, just because other malicious actors (with admittedly worse code effects, though again - we're talking malware here) were hit by it? Whether Anego studio styles themselves as group of nerds or a company, it does not change the fact that as it stands currently - representative of the company/group is condoning criminal (malware distribution via supply-chain attack) acts, just because the excuse is noble. Honestly speaking I am fed up with how many people in various communities seem to consider that 'not a big deal', whenever this, or something similar happens. people try to excuse effectively criminal behaviour. Every single covert and semi-covert supply-chain attack begins as 'fix', 'security update' 'anti-tampering', 'testing kit' etc. Once the presence of such code is expected and stops being verified, the actual payload is then inserted, OR users get tricked into installing that update by claims of benign code. It baffles me, how much people give allowance to those actions, as long as the perpetrator gives good enough story to cover his back after they get caught. Usually by messing something up - such as here - giving a ton of false positives. It is especially egregious due to Maltinez being official part of the team working on the VS. I will be watching further updates from the studio regarding the incident, and I honestly hope You get your stuff together and address the incident comprehensively. 'Tee heee, whoopsie' is not really acceptable response in my opinion, nor is 'yo he did good; he did it via malware, but he did it good, he got the worse guys', especially when we talk potentially criminal conduct as could be argued this incident is.
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