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I can't understand why there's so much hate toward Minecraft, specialy in reddit. Besides the fact that VS and Minecraft are completely different games, targeting different audiences, with different themes and goals, The only things they really share are blocks and graphics.

What people seem to forget is that Minecraft, at least in my opinion, paved the way for two of the best games ever made: Factorio and Vintage Story. In the end, and keeping things in perspective, it's like dismissing Newtonian physics just because Quantum Mechanics and Relativity were developed. All three can reach the same audiences, but for different purposes...

Let’s just have fun (and I have it in VS AND factorio).

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I don't see the full on hate too often (I'm not on the reddit all the time), but I do always see the sentiments even from the friends I play with that VS is better/objectively better Minecraft (Which maybe that's the type of Hate your talking about). and I can get where they are coming from, but it can bother me sometimes. cuz I don't have a problem with people liking VS more than Minecraft or thinking it's a better fit for what they want. VS is likely giving them the experience they wish Minecraft could be and I get that. but since Minecraft isn't trying to be the same experience I just don't like it when people will blanket say VS is Better than Minecraft like it's a Fact that is true for everyone.

People can still have their opinions and criticize Minecraft for what it is trying to do and criticize Microsoft/Mojang for their decisions. and I think it can be fair to compare certain parts of both block games, but when doing that they still need to consider that both games are serving two different play styles/ethos.

I think a lot of what I'm talking about to, with the "VS Objectively better than Minecraft" statements can come from personal built up frustration/resentment. because some of those people did enjoy the early days of Minecraft but as it got more updates and it became more clear that Minecraft isn't really going to focus certain genres/playstyles and instead be more of jack of all trades sandbox of tools/elements that you on your end can then do what you want with. which does leave in the base game to have just little things in every direction of gameplay. Those people became frustrated/sad over time because they wanted Minecraft to add/ lean more into the type of genres/gameplay that they like. Like there's a section of the Minecraft community that wants the game to be more RPG like and have a bunch of Bosses like Terraria, there are people that want more comprehensive survival mechanics/progression and just survival challenges.

Those latter half of people that eventually came across Vintage Story which they realized is almost exactly how they wish Minecraft would be. and those feeling of joy and "Finally! a block game that focuses on the gameplay I want!" can transform/result in them having the "VS Objectively better than Minecraft" sentiments.

also sometimes the Minecraft hate/negative comparisons can be a reaction to how some outsider minecraft players will stumble upon some VS media and just leave negative comments towards VS purely because it looks like Minecraft, and they don't know what VS is and they don't want to see it in their media timeline and or just want to be an jerk to make themselves feel better. So I'm sure that can be annoying (which it is, I also don't like those negative nothing burger comments on VS)

So it's tough, since I can see how/why they might be thinking like this, but it still bothers me/makes me a lil sad as a Big enjoyer of Both Minecraft and Vintage Story.

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As long as something exists, there will always be people who hate it, for one reason or another
...and reddit itself is a moderately toxic place (or maybe I'm just unlucky with what I come across there ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

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1 hour ago, ArtGnat said:

also sometimes the Minecraft hate/negative comparisons can be a reaction to how some outsider minecraft players will stumble upon some VS media and just leave negative comments towards VS purely because it looks like Minecraft, and they don't know what VS is and they don't want to see it in their media timeline and or just want to be an jerk to make themselves feel better. So I'm sure that can be annoying (which it is, I also don't like those negative nothing burger comments on VS)

Not even necessarily negative ones. A lot of people will make comparisons between MC and VS simply on visuals, and make assumptions about what VS is as a game based purely on that. I'm sure it gets old fast for anyone actually playing VS and knowing that similarities are largely superficial*.

 

* There are definitely deeper similarities, but they have more to do with how the game functions under the hood than how the game plays, if that makes sense.

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2 hours ago, ArtGnat said:

I think a lot of what I'm talking about to, with the "VS Objectively better than Minecraft" statements can come from personal built up frustration/resentment. because some of those people did enjoy the early days of Minecraft but as it got more updates and it became more clear that Minecraft isn't really going to focus certain genres/playstyles and instead be more of jack of all trades sandbox of tools/elements that you on your end can then do what you want with. which does leave in the base game to have just little things in every direction of gameplay. Those people became frustrated/sad over time because they wanted Minecraft to add/ lean more into the type of genres/gameplay that they like. Like theirs a section of the Minecraft community that wants the game to be more RPG like and have a bunch of Bosses like Terraria, there are people that want more comprehensive survival mechanics/progression and just survival challenges.

I think this is probably where the majority of the frustrations come from...that, and the whole comparison being somewhat of a meme in the VS community. When it's popular to dunk on something, it's not unusual for several people to jump on the dunking bandwagon, regardless of whether or not they actually dislike the thing in question.

As for which game is better...that really depends on what one is looking for in regards to gameplay. Vintage Story holds the advantage if one wants a proper story, more challenges, and grittier enemies/more realistic setting in general. Minecraft is better if one is looking for a more laid-back experience with a more whimsical nature, as well as a wider range of building styles to pick from. Not that Vintage Story doesn't support multiple styles, but the overall aesthetics of VS heavily favor realistic medieval-style builds, and not so much modern, fantasy, or other styles that aren't medieval.

2 hours ago, ArtGnat said:

also sometimes the Minecraft hate/negative comparisons can be a reaction to how some outsider minecraft players will stumble upon some VS media and just leave negative comments towards VS purely because it looks like Minecraft, and they don't know what VS is and they don't want to see it in their media timeline and or just want to be an jerk to make themselves feel better. So I'm sure that can be annoying (which it is, I also don't like those negative nothing burger comments on VS)

 

30 minutes ago, Katherine K said:

Not even necessarily negative ones. A lot of people will make comparisons between MC and VS simply on visuals, and make assumptions about what VS is as a game based purely on that. I'm sure it gets old fast for anyone actually playing VS and knowing that similarities are largely superficial*.

I might be a grumpy veteran by saying this, but I think some of it also stems from Minecraft players jumping into Vintage Story expecting the same kind of gameplay but with fancier graphics, learning rather quickly that the gameplay is very different from Minecraft, and then insisting that Vintage Story change various mechanics to be more like Minecraft. 

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On 8/25/2025 at 7:22 AM, Colaba said:

two of the best games ever made: Factorio and Vintage Story

Here, here!

These are my 2 favorite games of all time as well!

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Minecraft may be the grandfather of all games block. But since M$ bought it, and the existance of bedrock especially, and what is happening to that marketplace compared to how java is treated, its just one thing. That I will not dig into. Second, Vintage Story imho is far superior to anything minecraft can come up with in its wildest wet dream. That we will never see with the way M$ is trying to eliminate drops from any new mob it brings in, and that they are trying to kid proof.

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