Broccoli Clock Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 For those unaware of how many types of butterfly there are or the very specific spawning requirements they have, it sounds like a fairly straight forward question. However, dip your toes into the wiki article and you'll see it's far more complex than it would seem.. There are 169 variants, https://wiki.vintagestory.at/Butterfly#Variants, while spawning is a combination temp/rainfall/forest cover/elevation, https://wiki.vintagestory.at/Butterfly#Spawning (note: click the [Expand] link next to the "Butterfly spawning" text to see each separate spawn requirement). Even when you have location and conditions correct, you'll need to rely on RNG spawning the actual variant you are seeking. The added kicker is that there is no tooltip for butterflies, you have to identify them by their wings before you catch them. Catching kills them though, which is a shame, but there are mods that allow live capture and release so I'll likely lean into that. I'm tempted to do a "collect them all" thing, but I'd rather know that they are all possible to get before actually starting.
LadyWYT Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 6 minutes ago, Broccoli Clock said: I'm tempted to do a "collect them all" thing, but I'd rather know that they are all possible to get before actually starting. To my knowledge, they're all possible, but then again I've not tried to catch them all either. Still though, butterfly hunting is pretty fun, especially when you're at a loss for what to do in the game and just want to unwind after a long day. You'll probably want this mod(or something similar) though in order to display them easily: https://mods.vintagestory.at/butterflydisplays 1
Broccoli Clock Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 (edited) 33 minutes ago, LadyWYT said: To my knowledge, they're all possible, but then again I've not tried to catch them all either. Still though, butterfly hunting is pretty fun, especially when you're at a loss for what to do in the game and just want to unwind after a long day. You'll probably want this mod(or something similar) though in order to display them easily: https://mods.vintagestory.at/butterflydisplays My biggest worry is to invest hours in doing it, then to find out that it's not possible and that was down to a bug introduced many versions back, that has nothing to do with butterflies but had an unforeseen knock-on effect to their specific spawning, and that you would not know this bug existed unless you were targetting very specific variants. You can tell I've worked with large code bases if that's my main worry. Although that said, I have noticed far fewer butterflies spawning in my world since the move to 1.21 - that's probably just anecdotal though, I have no solid confirmation of that. As for the mods, yes, I would lean into the display cases - there is this one too https://mods.vintagestory.at/butterflycases, although my primary one would be the no butterfly deaths which I notice is now quite out of date.. https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/592 .. although there are some comments suggesting how to get it to work. Edited February 5 by Broccoli Clock
LadyWYT Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 9 minutes ago, Broccoli Clock said: My biggest worry is to invest hours in doing it, then to find out that it's not possible and that was down to a bug introduced many versions back, that has nothing to do with butterflies but had an unforeseen knock-on effect to their specific spawning, and that you would not know this bug existed unless you were targetting very specific variants. Well look on the bright side--if that happens, you get to be the guy that reports it so the devs can fix it!
Broccoli Clock Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 3 hours ago, LadyWYT said: Well look on the bright side--if that happens, you get to be the guy that reports it so the devs can fix it! I feel that would be quite the pyrrhic victory! I'll prob mark your response as the solution, but I'll leave the question open for a few days just in case someone else wants to chime in.
Solution MKMoose Posted February 5 Solution Report Posted February 5 3 hours ago, Broccoli Clock said: My biggest worry is to invest hours in doing it, then to find out that it's not possible and that was down to a bug introduced many versions back, that has nothing to do with butterflies but had an unforeseen knock-on effect to their specific spawning, and that you would not know this bug existed unless you were targetting very specific variants. Well, and would you look at the 1.22.0-pre.1 changelog: Quote Fixed: 23 types of butterflies never spawned Dunno what that was caused by since there don't seem to be any reports for them except a fairly vague one in the discord with no responses. Might wanna do a diff on the files to see exactly what was changed. Either way, would be pretty lame to keep searching for them on current stable. 2
Broccoli Clock Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, MKMoose said: Either way, would be pretty lame to keep searching for them on current stable. Because it would be quite the investment, considering the varied spawning requirements, even just the hint it isn't possible is enough to put me off. The caveats being the journey to all the butterflies was the experience rather than the final tally, and that the game is still in development so I can't really complain at little hiccups on that roadmap. Edit: going to mark you as solution, as for 1.21.6, it seems the answer is probably "no". Edited February 5 by Broccoli Clock
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