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5 hours ago, Sleeves said:

While I won't endorse piracy for a number of reasons- not least of which being that this game and its developers deserve the money of anyone who can afford to support them- I will say that comparing it to thievery is a little naive given it's not a matter of supply. If person A can't afford a game and thus can't buy it, their decision to pirate or abstain has zero impact on the revenue of its developer(s). The truly immoral thing is choosing to pirate a game that you could reasonably pay for.

I get what you're saying, but you are losing me at the "no lost sale" argument. It assumes something that cannot be proven. Whether a person would have bought the game under different circumstances is subjective. Piracy removes the possibility of knowing entirely.

I agree that it's worse when someone steals something they can afford, but stealing is still stealing. The inability to pay for a Disney ticket doesn't justify sneaking in anyway. It's still taking access to something I don't need without permission regardless of whether a cheaper ticket price would have allowed me to buy it. It's still wrong either way.

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Steam isnt the be all and end all of gaming and has drawbacks to being what it is that people might not want to engage with now or at all. Also that assumption that if its on steam you can get it cheap isnt exactly true due to the small number of games that dont partake in the seasonal sales for whatever reason. 

If someone won't play a game because its not on steam thats a choice they have made and are entilted to it.

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13 hours ago, Teh Pizza Lady said:

I get what you're saying, but you are losing me at the "no lost sale" argument. It assumes something that cannot be proven. Whether a person would have bought the game under different circumstances is subjective. Piracy removes the possibility of knowing entirely.

I agree that it's worse when someone steals something they can afford, but stealing is still stealing. The inability to pay for a Disney ticket doesn't justify sneaking in anyway. It's still taking access to something I don't need without permission regardless of whether a cheaper ticket price would have allowed me to buy it. It's still wrong either way.

My point is that, if you genuinely can't afford the game, then you are guaranteed not to purchase it even if you'd like to. Your ticket example is a bit different because you are receiving a service and/or goods which are inherently limited, in which case your entrance is costing the company money (and paying customers their time). Game binaries are not limited. Admittedly, related services (such as this forum) are, but that's another issue.

11 hours ago, ArgentLuna said:

Steam isnt the be all and end all of gaming

Indeed. That people even consider not being on steam a conscious decision is rather amusing; no one would make the same assumption regarding GOG, Itch, Epic, etc.

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24 minutes ago, Sleeves said:

your entrance is costing the company money (and paying customers their time). Game binaries are not limited.

Right, so the only cost there is against the company at that point, which kind of contradicts what most advocates for piracy claim (that it hurts no one).

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