Teh Pizza Lady

As a software developer myself let me explain how alpha/beta/release works. Things are in alpha until all the features are complete. Then in beta while they fine-tune the original base product. Then once released, maintenance updates are made to provide additional content, tweaks, etc. Only a skeleton crew works on the game at this point. The team diverts most of the resources into other projects. VS is still very much still in alpha. The team is still working on the underlying systems, changing things, scrapping other, absorbing mods into the base game and fleshing out the features on the roadmap. And adding whatever Saraty wants. like shelves.

Just a reminder that one of the most popular games in the world currently doesn't haven't DRM, sold a million copies in just 3 days and won GOTY.

Actually I can. I used an AI tool to pour through the game's source code to find the relevant code related to the login process. It generated a summary of what happens in the background and after reading it and double checking everything myself, I copied and pasted the correct and factual output. A lot of work actually went into this and I'm really disappointed you think that just because it reads funny that it's wrong. Maybe I should be asking YOU, can you think for yourself?

Totally understand the frustration — let me explain what's actually happening, because "DRM" isn't quite the right word for it, but I get why it feels that way. Vintage Story does an account check, but it's not a persistent online DRM lock. Here's the real mechanism: the first time you log in, the game requests a signed session key from the account server and caches it locally. Every launch after that, it verifies that cached key offline first (it's a cryptographic signature check, no network needed) — and only if that fails does it try to reach the auth server. If the auth server can't be reached at all, the game is actually designed to fall back to offline mode and let you keep playing rather than hard-blocking you. So under normal circumstances, you should only see the login screen once, and after that it should just work without internet — that matches what you were told before buying. If you're being sent back to the credentials screen repeatedly while offline, it means the cached session got invalidated somehow, which typically happens if: Your config/settings folder was cleared, reset, or you reinstalled without keeping it The cached key/signature got corrupted or only partially written You explicitly logged out at some point You moved to a new machine/profile without the cached session None of those are "the game phoning home to check you're allowed to play" every launch — it's closer to "the offline pass expired locally and needs to be reissued once." If you haven't touched your config folder and this is happening on a stable install, that'd actually be a bug worth reporting rather than expected behavior — could you let me know: does it happen on every launch, or only sometimes? And did anything change recently (update, reinstall, moved folders)? That'll help pin down whether it's the "no cached session" case or something not falling through to the offline branch correctly.

Didn't realize Tyron and i were buddies...

Mod created! https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/60780

I was thinking this myself while reading the thread. Time to make a new mod I guess. Armor of Theseus and all that.

except that writing: 10 Print "Hello World!" 20 GOTO 10 Would be an infinite loop which, in your example, the AI didn't tell you to do, so I don't really think it's a problem of people using an AI to code, but a problem of people not understanding how to describe the task or the solution once it's delivered.

In all honesty, no. LM21 stops getting security updates in April 2027, so you have less than a year before you have an internet-connected machine running an unpatched OS. You have a really old GPU and that's going to be a problem in a LOT of games, not just Vintage Story. The GTX 760 was considered obsolete in 2021 when Nvidia dropped support for their Kepler architecture, and Nvidia cards lose support on most Linux systems at the same schedule as their Windows counterparts. This is especially frustrating when you consider that the 1st gen Maxwell cards (GTX 750/750ti) still have better support because their architecture is newer... which seems backwards because the 760 is binned higher, but it's still on the older Kepler architecture. That's just how Nvidia does it: support is tied to the architecture, not how good the card was. I think this is going to be one of those issues where you just need to change hardware and go Team Red. Get a newer GPU or change to AMD. AMD's drivers live in the kernel and Mesa, so they're maintained by the community instead of being frozen whenever the manufacturer loses interest. Cards even older than your 760 still get active driver work on Linux to this day. The RX 580 still gets great support, comfortably outruns a 760, works out of the box on Mint with zero driver installation, and it's anywhere from 30 to 100 bucks on eBay depending on the seller. Either way happy gaming and I hope you get this issue resolved. Tweaking the software and getting old drivers to work on a newer OS was a pain in the butt for me back in 2012 and still is today. Pinning your kernel means you miss out on security updates too, and every time you touch your OS you have to double-check you're not accidentally updating the kernel and losing GPU support. That's a lot of on-going babysitting to keep one game running, versus a one-time purchase that "just works", to quote the venerable Todd Howard. TL;DR: There's a reason why Linux gamers refer to Nvidia as NoVideo and why Steam Deck uses AMD hardware now. Nvidia on Linux is only worth it if you have recent hardware and the patience to manage drivers.

How this topic is allowed to remain, I do not understand....

I went back and looked at the thread that started this whole thing and what I saw is that quenching should ONLY be done once, yes, but according to your post, tempering should be done after quenching. Annealing should be be done before quenching, so the process is Annealing to lower the risk of the tool/weapon shattering during the quenching process Quenching to harden it Tempering to lower the risk of the tool/weapon shattering during use. Skip and you might have an OP weapon but if you skip annealing, it could shatter while quenching or if you skip tempering it could shatter after making it into a tool/weapon. And that shattering during use thing... idk... it scratches an itch that I didn't know was there.

I think adding lighting would detract from the whole "dilapidated and exploded tower" vibe that's going on. Safer landing areas? I mean VS describes itself as uncompromising, so I guess just have better control of where you go? I could see a lighter version of the tower having these things, but this game isn't for kids. It's hard and frustrating and really not for the faint of heart.

So AI datascrapers can steal it?

Wait... so....... you're saying I need to be a specialist in construction... with certifications -- as well as have the knowledge to diagnose errors, etc just to use the $50 Black and Decker cordless drill I got from Walmart??!? Honestly I think you've proven my point about AI being a power tool even better than I ever could... especially since some of the best coding LLMs are only a $20/mo subscription away...and offer instant access to the latest models (Claude Fable 5 for example was recently pulled because of a vulnerability but when I used it, it blew me away with how in-depth and accurate it was... It was almost better than me and I have a 4-year degree in computer programming!)

some of these ideas are great. Others already exist in the game and you just might not be aware of it yet. Some others I'm not too sure about and I'd have to see them in action before deciding if it's better in the base game or as a mod. One of them in particular stuck out to me was the helping hand idea. It kind of already exists since you can just dangle a rope ladder from wherever you end up climbing and letting other players use that ladder before pulling it back up. The helping hand would be a great feature still but its usefulness quickly drops off once you acquire and place ladders. The floating basket is kind of eclipsed by the whole boat thing we have in the game now since you can add entire chests and storage vessels to your boats now and truly make a cargo ship if you wanted to. Same thing for the sail on the raft idea. A bit eclipsed by the sailboat we have now. And on that note, the boat idea you have really does already exist in the game and has a whopping 8 slots to add seats, storage vessels, crates, chests, and even hitching posts for your elk. You can already harvest chalk in-game and write with it on the walls. I have to admit that being able to destroy blocks by hand is probably one of the only things I enjoy about the other block game vs Vintage Story. It really doesn't feel the same without it. I'll look over the document more, but I am enjoying seeing your thought process. Even if ChatGPT did the translating, I can see the original ideas are still there. ---------------------- Ce message a été traduit par Claude d'Anthropic. Certaines de ces idées sont vraiment chouettes. D'autres existent déjà dans le jeu, tu n'es peut-être juste pas encore au courant. D'autres encore, j'ai un peu plus de doutes, il faudrait que je les voie en action avant de me décider si c'est mieux dans le jeu de base ou en mod. Il y en a une en particulier qui m'a marqué, c'est l'idée de la "main secourable". Ça existe en fait déjà plus ou moins, puisque tu peux laisser pendre une échelle de corde depuis l'endroit où tu as grimpé, et laisser les autres joueurs l'utiliser avant de la remonter. Ce serait quand même une chouette fonctionnalité, mais son utilité diminue vite une fois que tu as les échelles et que tu peux les poser où tu veux. Le panier flottant est un peu éclipsé par tout le système de bateaux qu'on a maintenant dans le jeu, puisque tu peux carrément ajouter des coffres et des conteneurs de stockage entiers sur tes bateaux, et vraiment faire un cargo si tu veux. Pareil pour l'idée de la voile sur le radeau, un peu dépassée par le voilier qu'on a maintenant. Et tant qu'on y est, ton idée de bateau existe en fait déjà carrément dans le jeu, avec pas moins de 8 emplacements pour ajouter des sièges, des conteneurs, des caisses, des coffres, et même des poteaux d'attache pour ton élan. Tu peux déjà récolter de la craie dans le jeu et écrire avec sur les murs. Je dois avouer que pouvoir détruire les blocs à la main, c'est probablement l'une des seules choses que j'apprécie dans l'autre jeu de blocs par rapport à Vintage Story. Ça ne se ressent vraiment pas pareil sans ça. Je vais regarder le document plus en détail, mais j'aime bien voir ton raisonnement. Même si c'est ChatGPT qui a fait la traduction, je vois bien que les idées originales sont toujours là.