Spear and Fang

@Ashiel*Blushing*. I think I may know more about this mod conflict. I was reworking my stew and soup patch yesterday to fix the missing textures and add the fish fillets (yes, fillets are done and will be in the next release), I discovered a single reference to bushmeat and I now suspect that it was me that had caused the conflict . That's been fixed so my hope is that bushmeat meals will no longer be an issue with the next release. Couldn't agree more about basing near water. In a survival setting, water is so important. I would love to see it get a little more tlc in the vanilla game. FYI, I had used @ozBillo's Bushmeat meals mod to figure out how to add fish to Primitive Survival, which is where the bushmeat reference came from.

Superb! When this was being discussed over on Discord I thought it was something to do with cats . But this is even better!

And quite frankly, just like in real life some people should find it hard and others should find it easy. Nature be like that.

I said something to that effect to someone long ago...basically that if I make it hard they'll just place 10x more and it will still be easy. Just wing it is the advice I really needed. Thanks!

Firstly, thanks so much for the kind words. I've put a lot of work into this mod, so I'm so glad that people are enjoying it! Secondly, I'm losing my mind right now. Just the other day I had someone tell me that the snare was pretty much useless. The snare is VERY similar to the deadfall, only slightly better. It's starting to occur to me that there simply isn't a way to provide everyone with a similar experience. I've been getting the same sort of feedback about fishing - it's way too easy for some, and way too hard for others. Not knocking you in any way, shape, or form, and I really do appreciate hearing from you, so thanks again. I just don't know what to do to fix things!

Not terribly hard. I thought Rue was working on that, but I guess not...

Ahh ok. I think initially I'd only make it for fish unless there was some output that already existed in game that I could easily tie into, and then when Tyron rolls out fishing in Vanilla I'd probably refactor it so serve some other purposes. But yeah, anything's possible there. And yeah, the jerky is from this very mod! It might be a prime candidate for the smoker.

Hmmm. So. confused. right. now. I'm going to have to do some playtesting and figure out where things are at. I reduced the likelihood of catching fish back in v1.3 and so it's a little frustrating to hear that it's still too easy. The truth is, I want it to be relatively easy, because why would people even bother with my mod if it was too hard? I guess easy and hard are pretty subjective, but I'd like to lean a little more towards easy. Appreciate your input!

The fish types issue was also brought to my attention yesterday, and the proposal was to be able to fillet the fish to make them all the same inventory type. That is totally doable without a lot of work, and I've already added that to my list. And after @Godogma's comment about fishing with soap, I've also decided to add mushrooms (and meat too, what the heck) to the accepted bait types list. I mean, I'm all for realism!

Thanks! Funny, someone else just reported that issue to me, and I've already added it to my list. The lure material makes no difference - I didn't really want to reveal that because perception can become reality, but...now you know! Hmmm, I'd rather not as mushrooms as bait - there's already a crazy amount of bait types you can use, and I've been getting reports that fishing is too darn easy.

Can you provide specific examples of what would go into it and what would come out? I mean, it's easy enough to let you put whatever you like into it, but if the output is not something that already exists, then it can be a real challenge deciding what purpose that new item would serve.

@Takata Cheroki Glad you're loving it, your comments are much appreciated! I've had a fish smoker/rack on my to-do list since the early days of this mod, but back then I simply didn't have the know-how back then to make that a reality. I think I'm finally able pull it off, it's just a matter of buckling down and getting it done. Hopefully I'll find the time over the holidays to get it done. And yeah, it's a breeze to sort out that fish holding aesthetic. I'm all about attention to detail, especially when it's something that can be easily fixed.

Thanks for the kind words @Ashiel. I'm sure I can do something related to removing rotten fish and will add that to my to-do list. I'm curious how you made out with the fish in soup and stew recipes? I think you might be right about it being a mod conflict situation, as it's the only part of my entire mod that relies on patching the game's code directly.

Yes, I wanted to simplify my life by only hosting it in one place (here), but apparently that plan was not a good plan. I am still using GitHub, but my intention was to only use it to back up my source code.

@Sukotto82 I don't know much about mod compatibility, but if I was to walk that road I'd probably start my research here. DArkHekRoMaNT has all of his source code posted on GitHub... Then I'd dive into this article on the wiki.... https://wiki.vintagestory.at/index.php?title=Modding:Moddable_Mod And probably do a little searching over on the Vintage Story Discord to see what turns up. You betcha!

@Fluffems New version up. Thanks for reporting the issue(s), it's always much appreciated! I tested it thoroughly after updating it so you *should* be good to go.

@FluffemsWell that's embarrassing! Yes, it's the snow that did that. I'll work on an updated version right now and should have it for you tonight. Don't try and fix them in game, the update should just sort that out for you. In hindsight I really should have tested them in snow too. I might have to rename the mod to "Worser Stairs".

@Kai EffelsbergAre you downloading it from my original post on this forum? Seems to work just fine. If you just happen to be downloading it from my github page here: https://github.com/SpearAndFang/primitive-survival then left click on the zip file to go one level deeper, so to here: https://github.com/SpearAndFang/primitive-survival/blob/master/primitivesurvival2.3.0.zip Then click the download button. It's weird I know, but I didn't want to spend any time sorting that out (I really only threw that up there for Plum to be able to download it).

Glad you're enjoying it @Nidor. I had worms on my wishlist at some point, not sure why they were dropped from that list. The mechanic you describe sounds perfect. I'm sure the farmers would also love worms in VS (for obvious reasons).

New version available. Details in Update History of original post. .Bump.

@Plum And yes, it is a redirect to amazonaws.com https://ips-cic-filestore.s3.amazonaws.com/r268468/monthly_2020_12/primitivesurvival2.2.0_zip....... In Google Chrome - Press F12 to open the debugger, click on the network tab, and hover over the names to get the urls. And I mean, you COULD just disable BitDefender temporarily, download some mods, then reenable it. If you're that security conscious, you should probably be right click- scanning those .zip files for viruses/malware after you download them, regardless of where they come from, because it's unclear to me why BitDefender trusts GitHub. https://www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/gonwyo/i_can_get_a_virus_by_using_github/ IT hat..disengaged.

Heyo @Plum I was hosting it on GitHub until just recently, but it was a hassle having to maintain things both here and there. I'm 99% sure that CopyGirl is one of only a few people hosting mods on GitHub (not that there's anything wrong with that). Most mods are hosted here exclusively. So I'm not really sure that having me host back there again is any sort of solution for you - it would make way more sense for you to tweak your security settings. Quite surprised you can even get Vintage Story updated as it's been popping security warnings of it's own of late. Anyway, I just threw a copy of it on Github for you. Just click on the link below and then click the download button, and it's yours! https://github.com/SpearAndFang/primitive-survival/blob/master/primitivesurvival2.2.0.zip

@AshielI'm no cooking guru, so I had to refer to this again... https://wiki.vintagestory.at/index.php?title=Cooking#Advanced_Cooking_Recipes So I just tried a few recipes, i.e. two fish, two different fish, and then threw some turnips in the mix, and they all worked for me. Maybe you're not using raw fish? I *think* it has to be raw fish...

@MaclairdSo I set up about 40 fish baskets and ran through every scenario I could dream up until I had caught about 20 fish, but I couldn't get it to crash. I'm running VS 1.14.0 Stable and primitivesurvival2.2.0.zip. Check your mods folder. It should look something like this: And if you go up one folder and then into the logs folder, you can drag and drop your server-main.txt file into a reply here so I can look at it. This guy: Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. No one else has reported a problem of this magnitude...

Oh you busted me. I've never chiseled anything in Vintage Story. I suspect that using these dynamically adjusting stairs would get things done a lot quicker though...