Moltrey

Not having even sniffed the whole prospecting/mining aspect much personally, yet still interested enough to scan the prior three pages of this thread leads me to ask: After boiling the issue down, aren't we right back at a core concept of how much work should the VS design require of a person in order to successfully obtain a given ore (or anything else for that matter)? It seems pretty clear to me at least that making one aspect more streamlined or even easier would tend to break the status quo of VS progression, at least compared to other progression areas. Sure, there is a healthy dollop of luck involved along with the process (pretty realistic, eh?) and I can see where folks can get really discouraged with the concept in practice (we'll get back 'round to that word). But I could say the same about starting in the stone age as a newb, until you read enough on it or watch vids and then do it, you're lost as what to do to be efficient enough to not starve if your luck is poor. I could perhaps see Tyron tweaking prospecting here or there but I don't foresee larger "work reduction" changes. It just doesn't strike me as the right VS vibe taken along with everything else in the game. Zooming out here a bit for side reference- I also play Matrix Games War in the Pacific: Admirals Edition. It is a very demanding PC wargame that simulates most aspects of the war in great detail. It also is definitely not for most people even if they are interested in the subject. Learning demands a lot of perseverance and persistence and there are many moving parts that require your attention. My father served in the USN during the war and I was in the USN myself, so for me the juice is worth the massive squeeze required. Getting back to VS, overcoming frustration regarding prospecting due to its nature in the game and the realistic randomness involved requires the old saying - Practice makes perfect, or at least adequate in order to overcome the bad vibes from failure frustration. At the end of the day, a big part of Vintage Story's divisiveness comes from design choices Tyron made when he decided to forge off in another direction from that other block game. Simple as that. Either embrace the suck or don't. Spending enough time with the game will raise your skill enough to no longer get ansgty about all the whys and what-fors involved. At least, that's how this noob sees it.

Lescalope: I recommend watching some YouTube videos on getting started in VS; they can ease you into what to do in early days and what to avoid. You can also slightly tune the experience by changing some basic settings under "customize" next to "create world". It will let you reduce the distance on respawn and many other settings like delaying the monsters for a handful of days so you can get your feet under you. You still have to deal with wolves and bears yes. Just run. Sometimes the shrubs and trees conceal them, so don't go into the heart of woods/forest, just the edges. VS is tough because it appeals to players who want a real sense of accomplishing advancing through the game. Give it some time, unlucky spawns and bad luck early on can really get anyone down. Find some help with beginners guides on YT and start there. Good luck!

Ah, my latest was epic. Spawn in, immediately hear bees. Sweet! Walk two steps and decide to break bush for sticks; hive was on ground in bush, bees swarm and start stinging me. Rage quit. Total time in game, maybe 30 seconds. Doh!

Thanks Tyron. This helps to soften the blow of losing my brother this morning to cancer, just a bit. VS will help me remember all the great times we shared like him taking me to see Star Wars in the summer of '77. Godspeed Mark, thanks for everything.

In another thread, Mickey22 solved his crash issues recently with VS and a NVidia GPU by reverting to v531.29 drivers.

MC: One other thing you might try is a MS tool I use to check Windows hasn't gone haywire. It is DISM or Deployment Image Servicing and Management, it checks your Windows image against an online version for errors/corruption. Left click on the Start button, type in command at top search bar, find Command Prompt, launch as Administrator if you can. Once the black text command window is open type: (Notes: _ are spaces, hit Enter when at end of line to execute. It may take a while to scan through everything.) DISM_/Online_/Cleanup-Image_/RestoreHealth I am at a loss as to why this is being such a PITA for you; I haven't had VS crash once yet. Anyway, good luck. Hmm, one other avenue just popped up in my head, you can always download DDU or Display Driver Uninstaller. You are going to want to launch it when in Windows Safe Mode so it can properly do its job. A lot of times old driver detritus is floating around your PC after a while, DDU will take care of it.

There were an awful lot of swatted bugs with rc7, so perhaps we might get, dare I say... lucky?

Ding, ding ding!! We have a winner, thank you Dorf. It is from the first episode, first scene. Wallace is lamenting "these bank holidays...", notices there is no cheese in the house, decides to "go where there's cheese" and of course, builds a rocket because "everybody knows the moon is made of cheese". Classic, the whole series.

Bzzzzt!! Sorry LadyWYT, but that is incorrect, thank you for playing!

"Everybody knows the moon is made of cheese..." First one to get the reference earns a

She means are you running the last stable release or one of the Release Candidates since then?

It's cool that you care about it so much Krougal; I am not real fond of the straight lines either, but once I am in the game I tend not to think about it at all. I AM super itchy to get this stable release though.

While I am sure it's a hot button for some, I am firmly in Maelstrom's camp- it is quite far down on the list for me. As the wicked witch of the west said, "All in good time dearie, all in good time..." (with apologies to Margaret Hamilton)

Whoof, some of these are big difference makers Tyron- thanks!

Noted.