ijkdenem Posted Sunday at 05:14 AM Report Posted Sunday at 05:14 AM with the new mechanic about the berries needing fertilizer i was wondering if since you don't hoe the soil before planting the bushes does that mean we can dig the dirt back up like normal or will it disappear like the farmland tilled soil? also do we need to put our berries near water? and can we still collect the bushes WHOLE if we wanna take them instead of only doing cuttings or is that feature removed?
ijkdenem Posted Sunday at 05:15 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 05:15 AM i tend to rely on berries a lot so i NEED to know this crap ASAP!!!!
MKMoose Posted Sunday at 10:04 AM Report Posted Sunday at 10:04 AM 4 hours ago, ijkdenem said: does that mean we can dig the dirt back up like normal You can, but the berry bushes currently downgrade the soil when they mature, meaning that the soil you dig up will be lower fertility than the one you planted on. 4 hours ago, ijkdenem said: also do we need to put our berries near water? Water is currently wholly irrelevant for berries. 4 hours ago, ijkdenem said: can we still collect the bushes WHOLE if we wanna take them instead of only doing cuttings Breaking a bush now drops a couple pieces of plant debris - replanting can only be done through cuttings. Keep in mind that the current system is a rather controversial one and some changes or at least fixes and balance adjustments are likely to come before 1.22 stable. 1
V1ncent Posted Sunday at 04:57 PM Report Posted Sunday at 04:57 PM 6 hours ago, MKMoose said: You can, but the berry bushes currently downgrade the soil when they mature, meaning that the soil you dig up will be lower fertility than the one you planted on. So it goes from medium --> low --> barren? That is cruel combined with one cannot digging up the berry and replant on another soil like replacing farming lot for crop now. 1
ijkdenem Posted Sunday at 05:04 PM Author Report Posted Sunday at 05:04 PM 6 hours ago, MKMoose said: You can, but the berry bushes currently downgrade the soil when they mature, meaning that the soil you dig up will be lower fertility than the one you planted on. Water is currently wholly irrelevant for berries. Breaking a bush now drops a couple pieces of plant debris - replanting can only be done through cuttings. Keep in mind that the current system is a rather controversial one and some changes or at least fixes and balance adjustments are likely to come before 1.22 stable. i hope that we can still get the WHOLE bushes later or they up the cuttings amount and lower the growth time of the cuttings cuz 6-12 months for the cutting to be useful is total BS!!!! i do like the added traits idea. getting bigger harvests is cool but i also hope that they REMOVE the cuttings spoil timer. cuz losing all of those due to taking to long to plant them then having to wait until NEXT year will suck.
MKMoose Posted Sunday at 05:12 PM Report Posted Sunday at 05:12 PM (edited) On 3/8/2026 at 5:57 PM, V1ncent said: So it goes from medium --> low --> barren? That is cruel combined with one cannot digging up the berry and replant on another soil like replacing farming lot for crop now. It's only when the bush initially matures, not when the fruit ripen, just to be clear. And it doesn't really go to barren, because for some reason they've decided that the cuttings can only be planted on medium fertility or higher. Otherwise correct. On 3/8/2026 at 6:04 PM, ijkdenem said: 6-12 months for the cutting to be useful is total BS!!!! It should be on average 5.5 months [it's more, I forgot one stage] between initial planting of a cutting and first berries ripening. The changelog is wonky on this. Granted, it may still be too long to see any berries before the first winter, depending on when exactly you plant them. Edited Monday at 08:04 PM by MKMoose 1
ijkdenem Posted Sunday at 11:25 PM Author Report Posted Sunday at 11:25 PM 6 hours ago, MKMoose said: It's only when the bush initially matures, not when the fruit ripen, just to be clear. And it doesn't really go to barren, because for some reason they've decided that the cuttings can only be planted on medium fertility or higher. Otherwise correct. It should be on average 5.5 months between initial planting of a cutting and first berries ripening. The changelog is wonky on this. Granted, it may still be too long to see any berries before the first winter, depending on when exactly you plant them. 1 BIG GRIPE i still have is that so far i see all these CUTTINGS but no grape vines or tomato vines. that stuff would fit right in with all this new content and would make more sense than frigging up the already ok berry bush situation.
LadyWYT Posted Sunday at 11:38 PM Report Posted Sunday at 11:38 PM 5 minutes ago, ijkdenem said: no grape vines or tomato vines. In fairness, those two are drastically different kinds of plants than simple berry bushes. Tomatoes one could probably get away with just copy/pasting the standard crop code, however, I think it would be better to add those once bellpeppers are properly working(in which case it would also be ideal to add similar multi-yield crops like peas, beans, eggplant, etc). Grape vines can be propagated via cuttings, I think, but they are climbing vines rather than bushes and needs proper support to grow, which is more complicated to code, I'd wager, than a bush block. Basically, those are things I'd expect to see at some point in the future, but not necessarily right now. I will also note there are other berries(like cloudberries and raspberries) that are in the files but not yet added properly to the game, I think due to the assets not yet being finished.
ijkdenem Posted Sunday at 11:47 PM Author Report Posted Sunday at 11:47 PM 6 minutes ago, LadyWYT said: In fairness, those two are drastically different kinds of plants than simple berry bushes. Tomatoes one could probably get away with just copy/pasting the standard crop code, however, I think it would be better to add those once bellpeppers are properly working(in which case it would also be ideal to add similar multi-yield crops like peas, beans, eggplant, etc). Grape vines can be propagated via cuttings, I think, but they are climbing vines rather than bushes and needs proper support to grow, which is more complicated to code, I'd wager, than a bush block. Basically, those are things I'd expect to see at some point in the future, but not necessarily right now. I will also note there are other berries(like cloudberries and raspberries) that are in the files but not yet added properly to the game, I think due to the assets not yet being finished. we got vines already. just add fruit to them and frig with the settings a tad to make them bloom/fruit at dif times. we will need trellis and stuff to have the vines climb. then we can FINALLY have a REAL vineyard with REAL vines.
ijkdenem Posted Sunday at 11:48 PM Author Report Posted Sunday at 11:48 PM but yeah i do hope for more crops of ALL kinds .
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