D1rtyS04p Posted yesterday at 06:16 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:16 PM Newbie here... So, the in-game handbook does not explain how to make powdered charcoal which is needed to make glue, so I thought the only way was to get a lucky drop from a vase or something... days later, I learned about the quern (what the hell is a "quern"?). Ok, fast forward... I made my first quern. Awesome! I made some powdered charcoal... got a pot cooking... making 4 glues... Aaaannddd I can't get it out... no explanation as to why. So I thought. Oh well the pot is unusable because the glue is inside, so i removed the pot thinking the glue was in it. Nope. Gone. This game kind of infuriates me sometimes.
LadyWYT Posted yesterday at 06:32 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:32 PM 12 minutes ago, D1rtyS04p said: Awesome! I made some powdered charcoal... got a pot cooking... making 4 glues... Aaaannddd I can't get it out... no explanation as to why. Using a bowl will allow you to retrieve the glue from the pot, if it hasn't solidified yet. You should be able to apply the glue to broken objects after that. If the glue is solidified the pot can be reheated to make the glue a usable liquid again. 14 minutes ago, D1rtyS04p said: Oh well the pot is unusable because the glue is inside, so i removed the pot thinking the glue was in it. Nope. Gone. Yeah, this part is counterintuitive, but the devs seem to be looking into that behavior so the cookpot can be improved in the future. For now though, trying to pick up cookpots containing uncooked meals/non-meal contents will empty the contents. 2
MKMoose Posted yesterday at 06:33 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:33 PM (edited) It is a known issue of sorts, which has been in the game for a long time, and it's caused by the pot technically not being a container. When picked up it drops the items inside, but since liquids can't just be dropped like regular items, they get spilled. You can take the glue out of the pot using any liquid container, that is a bowl, a jug or a bucket, using RMB. Edited yesterday at 07:51 PM by MKMoose 2
Shoom Posted yesterday at 06:47 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:47 PM I find that glue is one of those things you make so infrequently you always forget how to properly do it when the time comes around. 1
D1rtyS04p Posted yesterday at 07:35 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 07:35 PM 1 hour ago, MKMoose said: It is a known issue of sorts, which has been in the game for a long time, and it's caused by the pot technically not being a container. When picked up it drops the items inside, but since liquids can't just be dropped like regular items, they get spilled. You can take the glue out of the pot using any liquid container, that is a bowl, a jug or a bucket, I think using RMB, modified with shift for a greater transfer quantity. I tried a jug that i found, but it didn't work. didn't think a bowl would work to hold enough of what i made, but ok good to remember this. Use a bowl to retrieve glue. Now im out of the resin that took me weeks to find.
LadyWYT Posted yesterday at 07:40 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:40 PM 4 minutes ago, D1rtyS04p said: Now im out of the resin that took me weeks to find. If it's singleplayer can always use /gm 2 to switch to creative and replace the lost resources, before using /gm 1 to switch back to survival. I've done that a time or two when the game acts a little goofy. 1
MKMoose Posted yesterday at 08:04 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:04 PM 17 minutes ago, D1rtyS04p said: I tried a jug that i found, but it didn't work. didn't think a bowl would work to hold enough of what i made, but ok good to remember this. Use a bowl to retrieve glue. You need to take the jug with your cursor and RMB while hovering over the glue in the pot's UI. Also, it can't be modified with shift, I misremembered that.
Broccoli Clock Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago The glue is probably the biggest let down this game has given me.. ..which to be fair, is only one of the few negatives I've had. My first few playthroughs I didn't have enough resin, wasn't exactly sure how to get more (sure, trees, but new player and all that) so glue seems a bit of a stretch. Then I found my first underground ruin area, and saw that all the furniture with the tooltip about using glue or it'll break when removed. I spent time, and several failed attempts to get the glue, but finally I did and found out one glue portion is effectively worthless, so back to the grind, got more glue, applied to this lovely looking but dusty and cobweb covered bookshelf. It was then that I realised glue only allows you to pick things up, not actually fixes them. I spent ages trying to achieve something that literally I could have done just by rolling the dice and seeing if the object will break or survive my pickaxe, sans glue. I now play with glue effectively disabled, there is an option in the world gen at the start, under the "Clutter obtainable" drop down, which is located at the very bottom of the [Survival Challenges] section, and it allows you to set all clutter to either "always destroy", "always need glue" or "always gives object". I choose the latter. Now, if glue restored the item, or there was a secondary process that restored the items (looking through the handbook, I don't think there are many items that don't have both broken and restored versions) then I would invest in glue. I just don't see the benefit at the moment, so I just 'disable' it altogether. 2
LadyWYT Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 5 hours ago, Broccoli Clock said: Now, if glue restored the item, or there was a secondary process that restored the items (looking through the handbook, I don't think there are many items that don't have both broken and restored versions) then I would invest in glue. I just don't see the benefit at the moment, so I just 'disable' it altogether. Depending on what item you're after, there's possibly a way to obtain some "restored" clutter items via a specific NPC that will sell those kinds of things in 1.22. You can meet said NPC in chapter 2. Spoiler It's Tobias. I don't think he sells every clutter item; it seems to mostly be the kind of clutter that's scattered around his home. But if you like books and gadgets and have gears to spare it's a way to obtain decor outside of creative. I think mostly though that a lot of the nicer clutter is unavailable simply because the devs haven't worked out a good system for the player to obtain most of it, in a way that isn't just buying it. 1
Shoom Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Broccoli Clock said: The glue is probably the biggest let down this game has given me.. I think glue is a tad expensive, 6 charcoal and 6 resin for one guaranteed piece of furniture is a bit steep in my opinion, at least from a mostly solo player's perspective. Some alternative ways of making glue would be very welcomed, I know you can make glue in real life by boiling animal bones for example. Edited 5 hours ago by Shoom 3
Broccoli Clock Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 49 minutes ago, LadyWYT said: Depending on what item you're after, there's possibly a way to obtain some "restored" clutter items via a specific NPC that will sell those kinds of things in 1.22. You can meet said NPC in chapter 2. Reveal hidden contents It's Tobias. I don't think he sells every clutter item; it seems to mostly be the kind of clutter that's scattered around his home. But if you like books and gadgets and have gears to spare it's a way to obtain decor outside of creative. I think mostly though that a lot of the nicer clutter is unavailable simply because the devs haven't worked out a good system for the player to obtain most of it, in a way that isn't just buying it. It's purely decorative, and I know that there is a chance to get unruined items (pre 1.22, famously the torch holder) and if I can pick up some aged tables* or if I'm really lucky a big bed, then that's a win, but otherwise I'm happy picking 'as is' I was just a bit miserly when it comes to creating glue to pick it up 'as is'. So I've got a couple of metal barrels, some filled with rot (as part of the texture, not actually in its inventory), sitting next to my compost stuff. I picked up the washboards, coat racks and cloth piles for where I treat my leather and create dyes, while my smithy has chains/hooks from the roof and crates of broken stuff (again the texture). With the inclusion of cupboards and sideboards, I feel they will fill up my niche decorative/storage stuff so renovating the items is less of a concern. I do welcome more world building and cottage core, and the renovation or just the expansion of the decorative items in the game. You wander around The Library, for example, and wish for the ability to create similar. (* slightly annoyingly you can't place dough on an aged table, but can place everything else, this means I have one brand new table in my kitchen, while everything else has been looted or crafted)
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