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Has any vintarian been lucky enough to get their hands on a steam machine? If so, how is the performance? just curious.

That's the thing right? Those people act as if banning him from the community is a reward. It certainly isn't. Was he tired of the community and modding for it? Sure, so he says. Yet he still also interacted, stayed, and developed his mods when he could have just walked away. Regardless of what he said, maltiez still got something out of modding and interacting with people. Never having to deal with him again is enough for me. I dont need to see him fired by the mob because I dont like him, which I dont.

debatable. vigilantism is not a universally positive moniker and that is what tyron called maltiez

One time I found a copper pro pic and a tin bronze Pic in the first tool vessel I found in the world. Def sped up my progression lol

once again. assumptions are not facts. Having a differing opinion on what a statement means by itself is entirely different than assuming Its a lie and then assuming 500 other things because of said assumption. you are pulling this forum past opinion and trying to claim your conspiracies (not trying to be aggressive, but that is what they are) as 100% fact, and its entirely dishonest.

my point in saying this is, don't accuse others of what you yourself do. To accuse others of nitpicking devolves the thread exactly how williams explained. To claim you cannot read something without bias, then to say the insinuation that you have not is obnoxious, is contradictory. The problem is you and some others use your own assumptions to justify even more extreme assumptions. You assume Tyron's statement is a defense of maltiez, therefore that proves everything you have claimed so far. All the way up into you are now questioning the timeline completely. That is simply just illogical thinking. And yes i know we disagree, i literally pointed that out.

i don't think this is even quantifiable given when these problems started, and when it was discovered. Not knocking cave n caverns devs work in discovering this, i think you are over inflating the time spent.

i've seen you do the same thing to those that are defending specifically anego in ANY capacity in this situation... every time someone counters your reasoning, you either do the same thing, or just drop the argument. Which by the way people read things, shows you cant defend your position past your initial reasonings. Disregarding the few that specifically defend maltiez, most just have a differing opinion than you on how things actually are. You see tyron's response as a defense of maltiez' actions. I see it as a statement to explain to the community exactly what happened, why it happened, and that things are as of now, safe. This is typical formatting for an initial statement on a situation like this. if you take the time and read the statement without bias, it reads fairly neutral. which is normal.

seklesta is one developer and the scope of the situation is still relatively unknown internally. how many devs is "they" to what extent did they "know"? Im more inclined to believe tyron, who has since been very trustworthy and faithful to the community, that they didnt realize to what extent maltiez was speaking of. Also when i say this fiasco isnt more than a week old, i mean its discovery and everything that has happened since.

and ive already laid out what may complicate terminating his position. Tyron already did admit culpability in not looking further into what maltiez really meant when he had brought up his "anti-cheat efforts". The thing is, we have the benefit of hind sight. maltiez offhand mentioning his own efforts and then another statement asking to put anti cheat in the game at a different point in time could look entirely disjointed if mentioned even a few hours a part. Who said the community is at fault? I'm speaking specifically on a person (quiksilvr) trying to say anego is criminally liable for a third party mod containing malware. What does it mean to "stand by his employment"? They arent standing with him in solidarity saying he did nothing wrong. supposedly some discord moderator did (so what?) I already said, that i don't read tyron's statement as flattering to maltiez. Again, explaining the reasoning why someone did something is not automatically justification. Tyron mentioning problems with their inner tos points to this being more nuanced than you make it out to be. And speaking on the supposed "reward" of banning maltiez, look at it this way. Yes, he has said many times he does not like this community, and has expressed leaving. Despite that, he has continued to be a hostile member of the community to anyone with so much as a question Doesnt mute or leave the discord, doesnt quit interacting, etc. For some reason or another he feels the need to stay. banning him from everything, is for both our and anego's benefit. He has clearly displayed clear apathy towards us right up until him being silenced. Anego can't have him running his mouth at the community, essentially harassing us while on his high horse, and also try and repair standing with the community. All of you demanding immediate answers act as if this is the last we will ever officially hear of this. To which i highly doubt. This whole fiasco isnt even a week old.

That's the thing. Disregarding the poor wording of tyron's post,and what not. These actions were done prior to his employment, and were only discovered after the fact. You can't blame anego for a third party modder adding malware to their mod, before they were even hired by the company.

I mean, I laid out why his termination MAY currently be unattainable. Dude, I am a maltiez hater, at least in terms of his character. Have been since I first interacted with him on the moddb. I do not like the guy. I still think there's more nuance to this past just kicking him out the front doors. Its not always that simple. For those reading this later on. There is also the fact these actions were taken before his employment. i dont know the laws where anego or maltiez is based in, but this simply may not be something legally actionable because it happened before his employment ever started.

I feel like anyone demanding more simply wants blood. Nothing can feasibly done to fix this, past an apology. Depending on how maltiez is hired, his employment/ stay at the company could be conditional, or if he is contracted, there could be legal ramifications for terminating it. Honestly with how much the studio cares about us. Which they do. This situation doesnt challenge that, I wouldnt doubt if other devs share our animosity towards maltiez. Is actions and unapologetic reactions have greatly harmed community standing and im sure no one appreciates that. I've personally disliked him for the better part of the last two years.

Yes. That is what is called an explanation. In no way does this glorify maltiez actions. Tyron literally calls these actions foolish.

i simply disagree. You can argue he wasnt harsh enough in his critcisms, but he was still critical. He was explaining why maltiez did do what he did, and also said it was a foolish thing for maltiez to do. explaining why someone did something isnt automatic justification. Like others have said, what could they even do to prove people claiming they were affected were affected? mentioning the crashing would have to come with an apology or the ones that want it mentioned would be upset, and could also be an admission of guilt which could lead to problems.

i mean is that a fact tho? millions have downloaded this game. Where is the metric to prove most check devlogs? I know i do, but i also know of people who havent hopped on the website in the last 8 months. That being said, there should be a pinned forum post. Devlog and news should be strictly for update contents and plans like it always has been

i dont see where tyron was gushing about maltiez? all he really said was he had good intentions with his actions. yet still criticized everything he did, and how anego failed on their part not looking deeper into messages maltiez sent in a rolling chat. hes being removed from the community entirely, including the moddb. hes going to have his shoulder looked over while he works. Hes been all, but fired. I'm sure there is some animosity between some of the devs and maltiez after this incident. The community is obviously extremely important to anego, and maltiez just made the whole company look bad.

AI tech bro? what is this in reference too? He has no access to the code. What he did was wrong, and his reactions to him being caught are rather sanctimonious. That being said, As a Maltiez hater (as much as i like his mods, he's an ***hole), i feel he does not need to be fired. Reprimanded? banned from db? definitely. from what i've seen, he's just an advisor tho.

I think Tyron's response is fine. they aren't public relations experts, and im going to give the benefit of the doubt and say he just forgot to add details, as i still trust the dev team. I don't think he was justifying maltiez's actions. He very clearly called his actions foolish. Hes also leaving the community nearly in every way as well as will be heavily scrutinized, which is fair in my eyes. In regards to maltiez, i honestly can't say i'm surprised. He's a very sanctimonious person and absolutely does not care about what any one else thinks, refuses to answer honest questions, etc, etc. if his current mods are safe to use then the past is the past. They are great mods, and i hope they are kept at least functional by the dev team, or whoever they decide to hand them off too. That being said, at least temp banishment from the community is fair. I hope maybe one day he stops and realizes he was in the wrong.

well it seems like at random times my performance will tank. ill add this to see if it changes anything and let you know.

While not to the extent of the mod, definitely. imo as of now, any armor below iron is useless. As high level temporal monsters spawn often, and basically ignore lower level armors. tho i would like the implementation of a more complicated armor system (like combat overhaul lol) the mechanics of player damage and attacking/ defending is fine. i do think bows are underpowered and certain fauna are too strong.

I play a pretty heavily modded game on steam deck and i was curious if anyone knew if butterflies could add a significant strain on performance when they spawn. Since they spawn in fairly large quantities it seems If so i was thinking about finding a way to disable them from spawning since i dont interact with them at all.

That's the thing, changing all that makes the game feel completely different than what i am proposing. like i said, the mechanics can be exploited in roughly the same way in vanilla. How many people really min-max pies and how fast does the average player make it to the point in which they can effectively mass produce multi-nutritional pies? By your logic, hunger is a useless mechanic even in vanilla because pies exist. The only thing not accounted for in my initial post is killing yourself to avoid the penalties. There is no benefit to eating hearty meals in base game aside from nutrition bonuses and the hunger pause. I think @Rainbow Fresh expanded on my initial ideas with fairly good, balanced changes. I also want to mention that many mods are situational additions dependent on settings? This isn't any different, than me proposing this be balanced around the 30 day month. I also don't mean offense, but i feel like your thinking about this more as a suggestion/ critique for vanilla rather than what i initially pitched it as. Which is just a realistic-lite hunger mod. In any case, i do appreciate your input.

Honestly this is pretty great. I can agree with you guys on making gaining health more difficult than losing it, for sure. I don't think i have any objections. Could add tool tips to meals and what not on how it affects you and how certain food can buff your delta, so on and so forth. Thanks for your input!

This idea i think is more balanced around the 30 day month and limited resource/ temporal gear uses. it's more so to change the ramifications while on a long journey. i mean the problem with vanilla starvation is solved by dying as long as you are near home or have a temporal gear on hand. The same goes with this i think. The danger comes from being away from home with limited resources for too long. i can't remember or haven't seen how other hunger mods affect you after death, it is something i may have to look into. The thing is, the benefits of preserving food still exist. you still get health buffs, and having those health buffs will give you a larger health pool while you go hungry unless you go too long. the current system can still be gamed by eating minimal food. you just aren't getting the benefits of more nutritious meals as with this idea. Maybe it could be balanced based on what length of month you choose in that regard, but i feel like it could be fairly balanced in a 30 month day, which was my idea. kind of have hunger mirror the real world with you know, weight limits, etc. By that i mean your starvation clock (your health actively ticking down, like how hunger or nutrition is programmed to drop, except without the variables) stops ticking while your satiety is above zero, but will immediately start ticking again if you don't keep your satiety bar up. so it will go right back down to draining if you don't find more food. I think having to wait a full day for 2 health to come back is still quite the downside, especially because of how dangerous the world is. That being said, if you wanted it harder, you could maybe make it half health or one health point per day. I personally thought it was better to be a bit more forgiving. My idea is to not make the game more hard or easier. It's to have a system that is equal in difficulty, but handles the downsides differently. I think these are great ideas, that perhaps could be implemented. Like specifically if someone dies in anyway while in a state of starvation, that state persists, and you lose all nutrition bonuses regardless. So you are at your base health, with half a satiety bar, but still in a state of starvation. What do you think? Like i said, my main problem is more so that it seems like most mods that try to scratch that realism itch go just a bit too overboard in my opinion. i kind of wanted something more realistic, but less bloated with features/ mechanics. Perhaps if i can learn how to mod eventually i could do it. For the time being, i just wanted to put my idea on here, in case anyone thought it was neat, and get some feed back