Sandwiches

[TamTroll]

Was pretty disappointed when i first made Bread to discover i can't really do much with it, so hey, proposal.

Bread + Knife in crafting grid + other food products = Sandwich. Knife just looses a bit of durability.

Sandwich composition is very flexible, any source of food can be put in there, if you can eat it, it can go into a sandwich. Put some Redmeat, an onion, and some berries into a sandwich? Now you got me a redmeat-onion-berry sandwich, giving you a little bit of Protein, Vegetable, and Fruit nutrition on top of the Grain nutrition from the bread. Sandwiches made of the same ingredients can stack, sandwiches with different ingredients can't.

idk if Balance is a concern or not, but perhaps a tradeoff for getting so many nutrition sources in one go can be that they give reduced nutrition as a result.

I don't know nutrition amounts, so I'm going to make some up on the fly here, bare with me.

So for example lets pretend that cooked Redmeat gives 10 protein per Redmeat. Well, we can say that in a sandwitch, each cooked redmeat only gives 5 protein. If a Blueberry gives 5 Fruit nutrition, then you only get say, 3 fruit nutrition from a berry in a sandwich. But a single sandwich fills up your hunger bar a fair bit, more for each bit of food you put in, so they'd still be good to keep around just for portable, easy to stack nutrition and filling, even if you're getting less nutrition then just eating the ingredients alone, the benefit is in the portability and increased saturation.


I would say that putting an Egg or bowl of Milk into a Sandwich might translate into Mayonnaise or Butter respectively, but given this is Vintage Story, those would probably need to be created separately before being put into a sandwich.

Thinking one loaf of bread per sandwich. just say it's cut lengthwise subway-style and all turned into one big sandwich.

Edited October 18, 2024 by TamTroll
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[StCatharines]

Two mods might interest you. DanaCanCook and Sammiches both do basically what you suggest: adding the ability to use bread as the base for a meal.

[Apocalypse_Andy]

I find this interesting from a survival perspective.  If it would increase saturation loss delay more than just eating the items individually.  If you found berries, meat, or vegetables after you already cooked the bread then you could combine them and make more of a meal out of it.  I think pies should give you more of a bonus, but some would be nice.

[Thorfinn]

1 hour ago, Apocalypse_Andy said:

If you found berries, meat, or vegetables after you already cooked the bread then you could combine them and make more of a meal out of it.

Anything you can slap together in the field also needs to be worse than a cooked meal, especially since cooked meals have pretty specific recipes, and sandwiches are whatever you have on hand.

[TamTroll]

my main thought / goal with them was "Good saturation to keep you fed on the road" mixed with "Lets you keep multiple nutrition sources in one small portable package"

Just the tradeoff being that there's less nutrition overall compared to eating all the ingredients individually.

 

[Deaderpan]

the game definitely needs "workman's food". alot of food like sandwiches, pork pies and bottled drinks where simply meant for people to take a single meal with them to work in a place that wouldnt have proper cooking facilities such as a farm field, up a skyscraper or down a mine. it feels odd taking a bowl of stew down the mines in an open top bowl. the game definitely needs food that isnt meant to last in a cellar but keeps your character fully fed an entire day.

also after typing the bowl of stew thing, id like to suggest a portable canteen/mess tin. it can hold a single bowl of stew but it lasts twice as long.

Edited October 19, 2024 by Deaderpan

[Thorfinn]

Pies serve that role well, @Deaderpan. They are a tiny bit more difficult now since fireclay is rare, but you can still have an oven at the cost of 8 flint and a dozen pieces of charcoal. Still day 4 or 5 if you don't start in a desert or something. (Used to be possible day 1 if you found a pick in a tool vessel, but the changed quern recipe prevents that -- it's now locked behind an anvil.)

Sandwiches as conceived here are a little different. They are an improved porridge in that you can assemble a meal in the field carrying a stack of bread and using raw or primitive-cooked ingredients.

I have not tried out the sandwich mods yet. They were on my list, then the pre-releases of 1.20 hit.