i feel kinda cheated :S

[LadyWYT]

12 hours ago, BMiBudzYT said:

EDIT: what container do you need to squeeze honey in the help guild doesnt say which one

You can also squeeze honeycomb in the fruitpress; just make sure you have a bucket underneath to catch the honey, and enough honeycomb for the press to actually squeeze. I'm not sure what the minimum level is, but if it's not enough to squeeze at the time you can save the unmashed block and throw it back into the press with more comb later.

[BMiBudzYT]

im sorry but i have to say this after playing for this long... but this game has one of the worst map generators i ever seen.... i been searching for 5 days + for copper and i found enough for a pickaxe and hammer.... now i cant find any anywhere for the anvil... 
 

ive literally lowered the map option to 60%...thats 40% less than what most of you are playing.... and its the most boring and utterly ridiculous thing i ever seen, people claim this is realism... but this is a game and games should be fun.... this is as far from fun as possible.... its such a joke how bad the map gen is...

Edited September 28, 2025 by BMiBudzYT

[Nyaaori]

1 hour ago, BMiBudzYT said:

im sorry but i have to say this after playing for this long... but this game has one of the worst map generators i ever seen.... i been searching for 5 days + for copper and i found enough for a pickaxe and hammer.... now i cant find any anywhere for the anvil... 

You should be able to find surface copper veins a few blocks underneath bits of copper ore on the surface, it's a good idea to add map markers any time you find ore bits on the surface so you can come back later and dig up the vein underneath.

1 hour ago, BMiBudzYT said:

ive literally lowered the map option to 60%...thats 40% less than what most of you are playing.... and its the most boring and utterly ridiculous thing i ever seen, people claim this is realism... but this is a game and games should be fun.... this is as far from fun as possible.... its such a joke how bad the map gen is...

If you're using realistic climate distribution, try lowering the polar-equator distance, that will make how far you have to travel to get to colder/warmer climates significantly easier.

 

If you just want an "easy" experience with minimal challenge for finding resources with "interesting" world gen, try these settings:

• World Height: 384 blocks
• World Generation:
  • Climate Distribution: Realistic
  • Landcover: 50%
  • Landcover scale: 75%
  • Upheaval rate: 60%
  • Landform scale: 20%
  • Polar-Equator distance: 5000 blocks
  • Story structures distance scaling: 25%
  • Forestation & shrubs: +50%
  • Global deposit spawn rate: 200%
  • Surface copper deposit frequency: Very common
  • Surface tin deposit frequency: Very common

Do keep in mind that this won't provide the "intended" experience of the game, but it might be closer to the experience you're looking for. You might also want to enable colour accurate world map.

These settings should produce mountainous terrain with lakes and oceans being fairly common, and almost entirely remove the difficulty of locating certain resources, though for others you might still need to travel north or south; but the distance you'll need to travel is significantly less than with default worldgen settings.

 

Here's a breakdown of the settings so that you can adjust them yourself if wanted:

• World Height - Changes how tall the world is, taller worlds allow for taller mountains
• Climate Distribution - Changes between random patches and polar/north-south distribution of climate
• Landcover & Landcover scale - Changes how large landmasses are and how much water there is between them
• Upheaval rate - Adjusts commonness of hills/mountains
• Landform scale - Adjusts the size of biomes/landforms
• Polar-Equator distance - Changes the distance between poles when using realistic climate distribution, ie the distance between the hottest climate and coldest climates
• Story structures distance scaling - Changes how far apart/away story/lore related structures generate
• Forestation & shrubs - Changes the density of trees and shrubs
• Global deposit spawn rate - Changes how common ores are
• Surface deposit frequencies - Changes how common surface spawns of ores are

[BMiBudzYT]

im sorry to say this but this game is horribly bad how does anyone rate this game at all... i just spent 4 days trying to shift enough copper from gravel (900 units) for a forge... got enough made the forge... but when i tried to take it out it destroyed the mold and the 900 units of copper this game is such a joke its mind blowing... people keep telling me "intended experience" and im playing it on a less settings then the "intended version" and its unbearably bad gaming experience... this game has so many flaws and issues it blows my mind....

the help guide isnt even good enough to warn you of these issues or flaws... this game is a huge waste of time of pure horribleness...
how there is people who rate this game is insane... you are just better off playing minecraft which is 10000000000x better than this garbage... 

and please dont say realism... because realism would mean the mold would destroy but what happens to the 900 melted copper?? just vanishes??? so realistic 

Edited September 30, 2025 by BMiBudzYT

[ifoz]

20 minutes ago, BMiBudzYT said:

i just spent 4 days trying to shift enough copper from gravel (900 units)

The usual recommended method is by getting 40 nuggets to make a pick and hammer, then mining copper for the rest. 1-2 surface deposits usually is enough for an anvil.
 

20 minutes ago, BMiBudzYT said:

but when i tried to take it out it destroyed the mold and the 900 units of copper

This sounds like a bug, what is meant to happen is that you get to keep your new anvil, and the mold shatters. If you want, you could use cheats to grab a new anvil, since that isn't an intended part of the game's design.

Edited September 30, 2025 by ifoz

[BMiBudzYT]

8 minutes ago, ifoz said:

The intended method is by getting 40 nuggets to make a pick and hammer, then mining copper for the rest. 1-2 surface deposits usually is enough for an anvil.
 

This sounds like a bug, what is meant to happen is that you get to keep your new anvil, and the mold shatters. If you want, you could use cheats to grab a new anvil, since that isn't an intended part of the game's design.

as i said before trying to find any copper in the 100000 caves which are so pointless to explore coz there i literally nothing in them... makes finding copper near impossible and im playing a lesser version than the "intended version".... 

i hate to be that guy but this game's badness is at a level that just blows my mind....there is so many things they could do to make this game incredible... such as better map gen being #1, More animals.... #2 the world is so deserted with 1 - 2 creatures that are never near any where you build, #3 the plants and farming time needed to actually get fool is insanely way too long... 16+ days for berries? 9 stages of farming for some of the seeds you plant for food that barely increase your NRG.... is insane

this whole game is like pulling teeth 

[ifoz]

4 minutes ago, BMiBudzYT said:

as i said before trying to find any copper in the 100000 caves which are so pointless to explore coz there i literally nothing in them... makes finding copper near impossible and im playing a lesser version than the "intended version".... 

Earlygame you are much better off finding surface deposits. Whenever you see copper bits on the surface, there is ore just below, no caving required.

 

4 minutes ago, BMiBudzYT said:

this whole game is like pulling teeth 

It kind of sounds like it just isn't the game for you, which is totally fine. Not every game is going to cater to every person.
Not saying there aren't flaws because there definitely are some, but it just sounds like you really aren't enjoying any of it at all and might be better off seeking out other games you'd get more enjoyment out of. I'm pretty sure the VS devs let you get a refund if you are unhappy with the game.

[BMiBudzYT]

4 hours ago, ifoz said:

Earlygame you are much better off finding surface deposits. Whenever you see copper bits on the surface, there is ore just below, no caving required.

 

It kind of sounds like it just isn't the game for you, which is totally fine. Not every game is going to cater to every person.
Not saying there aren't flaws because there definitely are some, but it just sounds like you really aren't enjoying any of it at all and might be better off seeking out other games you'd get more enjoyment out of. I'm pretty sure the VS devs let you get a refund if you are unhappy with the game.

im not trying to be rude or over the top but "this game isnt for you" has to be one of the most ridiculous things i ever read.... while that would be true in proper cases... you are lying to yourself if you think anyone with a brain would enjoy this game with such a bad world generator....that has nothing to do with "the game isnt for you" but everything to do with serious lack of understanding what makes a good game... people....normal people dont want to waste time running in one direction just to see a small change in area and materials... it literally begs the question of why play this vs minecraft (and yes i understand there are people who think this isnt minecraft).... but this game plays exactly the same as minecraft with alot more flaws... 

so im trying to understand how the game designers would think anyone normal would play this game or continue playing this game with such lack luster issues in their game.... there is no logical reason for this over the top excessive frustration build of "minecraft".....

[Echo Weaver]

Gee, guess the game isn't for you then. 

It's always a productive way to talk about a game to show up on a forum for people who love a game and tell them that nobody with a brain would like it.

People with brains just don't play games they don't like. They don't try to convince everyone else not to like it.

[BMiBudzYT]

1 hour ago, Echo Weaver said:

Gee, guess the game isn't for you then. 

It's always a productive way to talk about a game to show up on a forum for people who love a game and tell them that nobody with a brain would like it.

People with brains just don't play games they don't like. They don't try to convince everyone else not to like it.

i said people with a brain... fanboys are a different case... 

[Echo Weaver]

6 minutes ago, BMiBudzYT said:

i said people with a brain... fanboys are a different case... 

Just go play something you like. Everything is not a big ethical dilemma.

[BMiBudzYT]

11 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

Just go play something you like. Everything is not a big ethical dilemma.

you missing the entire point

[Zane Mordien]

There is no point to miss. You remind me of a girlfriend I had when I was 20 who dumped me and then complained 3 weeks later that I wasn't spending enough time with her to talk about her feelings. 

 

[Echo Weaver]

3 minutes ago, Zane Mordien said:

There is no point to miss. You remind me of a girlfriend I had when I was 20 who dumped me and then complained 3 weeks later that I wasn't spending enough time with her to talk about her feelings. 

Oh wow. 

I've been trying to figure out if there's a better way to tell folks this is just not their game. "Maybe this game isn't for you," seems to be like telling a jilted lover to calm down. 

[BMiBudzYT]

10 minutes ago, Zane Mordien said:

There is no point to miss. You remind me of a girlfriend I had when I was 20 who dumped me and then complained 3 weeks later that I wasn't spending enough time with her to talk about her feelings. 

 

so she was smarter than you? ohk

[BMiBudzYT]

5 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

Oh wow. 

I've been trying to figure out if there's a better way to tell folks this is just not their game. "Maybe this game isn't for you," seems to be like telling a jilted lover to calm down. 

i have many many hours on minecraft... its not the game isnt for me.... its a bad version of minecraft with alot of flaws... you just too much of a fanboy to understand... 

[Zane Mordien]

45 minutes ago, BMiBudzYT said:

its not the game isnt for me.... its a bad version of minecraft with alot of flaws

So you just go to the forums of every game you don't like and complain it needs to be more like x game of the same type? It needs to understand your feelings because you no longer want to play it? 

 

Sounds like I don't care to listen anymore the same as my x.  Your opinion has been registered and it means a lot to me. Enjoy the rest of your life.

[BMiBudzYT]

4 minutes ago, Zane Mordien said:

So you just go to the forums of every game you don't like and complain it needs to be more like x game of the same type? It needs to understand your feelings because you no longer want to play it? 

 

Sounds like I don't care to listen anymore the same as my x.  Your opinion has been registered and it means a lot to me. Enjoy the rest of your life.

are you really this ignorant... you understand there is a difference between complaining and stating the truth?? your X seems like she realized you are a fool and did the best decision of her life and dumped you.... 

Edited September 30, 2025 by BMiBudzYT

[LadyWYT]

10 hours ago, BMiBudzYT said:

i just spent 4 days trying to shift enough copper from gravel (900 units) for a forge... got enough made the forge... but when i tried to take it out it destroyed the mold and the 900 units of copper this game is such a joke its mind blowing...

Like others here have noted, the general way of acquiring enough copper for the first anvil and tools is by mining surface deposits with the pickaxe and crushing the ore with a hammer. Panning for all the ore is an alternative that's very safe, but also very slow and tedious, so it tends not to be the usual strategy. As for the anvil mold breaking, that is intended behavior, however...

 

10 hours ago, BMiBudzYT said:

and please dont say realism... because realism would mean the mold would destroy but what happens to the 900 melted copper??

Breaking a mold that contains metal that has not yet hardened will produce a mess, and not a finished product. I think in that case though, the metal is supposed to drop as chunks, that you can break down into bits with the chisel and then re-smelt. If no metal dropped though, it sounds like you found a bug, in which case best to report over on the github bug tracker.

 

6 hours ago, BMiBudzYT said:

so im trying to understand how the game designers would think anyone normal would play this game or continue playing this game with such lack luster issues in their game.... there is no logical reason for this over the top excessive frustration build of "minecraft".....

...Tyron(the lead developer and creator of Vintage Story) is designing the game he himself wants to play. It originally began as a mod for Minecraft, but due to disappointment in the direction Minecraft was heading, and the limitations of Minecraft's engine for mods, he ended up just building his own game to ensure his vision could be fulfilled completely. Given the success of Vintage Story, there are obviously a lot of players out there who also enjoy his design, but that also doesn't mean that everyone who tries the game out is going to enjoy it(that can be said of any game).

If you're not enjoying the game or prefer Minecraft instead, that's perfectly fine too--everyone's allowed to have preferences. The refund policy is quite generous, as I understand it, so you should be able to get your money back, though it may take a few days for the support team to process your request.

[Teh Pizza Lady]

6 hours ago, BMiBudzYT said:

this game plays exactly the same as minecraft

Careful... you're close to telling me you know nothing about VS aside from what you see on the surface.

27 minutes ago, BMiBudzYT said:

you understand there is a difference between complaining and stating the truth??

I don't recall recognizing you as any source of truth. You are a YouTuber, see, and the last one we had come through here got himself banned after starting many arguments and fights by insisting he was the only one with the truth, so please understand that when I take any opinion you have about one of my favorite games with a mountain of salt, it's not personal. We've only just been down this road before and gotten burned.

So forgive me if I seem dismissive. It because I am. We tried to help. You got rude and nasty just like the last guy. End of story.

Change, or leave. Your choice. Or go eat some pizza and come back when you're feeling better.

[BMiBudzYT]

6 minutes ago, Teh Pizza Lady said:

Careful... you're close to telling me you know nothing about VS aside from what you see on the surface.

I don't recall recognizing you as any source of truth. You are a YouTuber, see, and the last one we had come through here got himself banned after starting many arguments and fights by insisting he was the only one with the truth, so please understand that when I take any opinion you have about one of my favorite games with a mountain of salt, it's not personal. We've only just been down this road before and gotten burned.

So forgive me if I seem dismissive. It because I am. We tried to help. You got rude and nasty just like the last guy. End of story.

Change, or leave. Your choice. Or go eat some pizza and come back when you're feeling better.

im the one being rude ?? have you read some of the last posts by others? 

[Echo Weaver]

18 minutes ago, BMiBudzYT said:

im the one being rude ?? have you read some of the last posts by others? 

Um, yes, we told you it's ok not to like the game, and you told us we're idiots. You realize these things are not the same, right?

[BMiBudzYT]

3 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

Um, yes, we told you it's ok not to like the game, and you told us we're idiots. You realize these things are not the same, right?

oh lord

[Echo Weaver]

Just now, BMiBudzYT said:

oh lord

Look, if you're still comparing it to Minecraft and you panned for 900 units of copper to make an anvil, then you haven't learned to play the game. We tried to help, and to your credit, you really tried to find the fun. Now you're fed up. That's JUST FINE. What's not fine is telling us we're all wrong because we like it. Just go play something else.

[BMiBudzYT]

2 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

Look, if you're still comparing it to Minecraft and you panned for 900 units of copper to make an anvil, then you haven't learned to play the game. We tried to help, and to your credit, you really tried to find the fun. Now you're fed up. That's JUST FINE. What's not fine is telling us we're all wrong because we like it. Just go play something else.

great way to ensure the game has players... play something else