Zane Mordien

@MrAlygator You should check out the "builds" area of the fourms. See what other people have done. https://www.vintagestory.at/forums/forum/18-builds/

Well I don't know if rust beast is the right term, but I have always considered the rust realm and the rot to be separate. Maybe related in that Jonas' playing around with the rust realm created the rot, but the creatures that come from the rust realm I have never considered to be "rot beasts". I've always thought they were warped versions of people who were transformed at the end when Jonas "threw the switch" at the end.

Wait, does the game say drifters are rot beasts or is that typo for rust beasts? I've never thought of a drifter as a rot beast. The rot as I remember in the lore turns animals feral for lack of a better word, and then they try to kill everything sort of like a zombie. Then in the end the rot kills all living things leaving nothing behind.

I love when you/me/anyone has to clarify that, wait I was agreeing with you for a change. Well, heres hoping they do something more fun with them in the future and you can come back and try them out again.

Well now that we have heard from the coolaid drinkers. It's time for debbie downer to post. I used to use spears heavily so they are nerfed pretty hard. Oh sorry Balanced pretty hard. I think it is a bit of an overcorrection. They are super slow to throw accurately and do less damage. It's going to change how a lot of people play the game. If spears are going to be so.. balanced.. then I think they need to make hit boxes more realistic on animals. If I'm hunting with spears early game it shouldn't take 15 spears shots to kill a bear and 5 to kill a deer. Head shots should do more damage for example. That 15 is probably 10 if you aren't a blackguard or other class with a range debuff.

Someone was saying before that alcohol was too easy with berries and people ignored fruit trees because they had berries. I don't think the change to berries will make anyone wait out fruit trees to get fruit to make berries. I'm also not against the change, I was just stating it really is a pointless game mechanic mostly. If Aqua Vitae was completely removed from the game would your game play really change that much? The change to spears makes me rethink my game play in a serious way on the other hand. My combat strategy has to adapt. I would hit everything with a few spears and then go in for the kill with my melee weapon. That won't work anymore since spears are basically nerfed out of usefulness. This also makes me more of a proponent for a combat overhaul though. It's time for hit boxes to mater and damage not be the same if it hits the foot or the head of a animal. Drifters and other rust creatures maybe not so much since they are unnatural.

@Makeshift Alternatively, just dig out the soil and replace it if the nutrient is spent for the seed you are planting. There is nothing sacred about farm plots and medium fertility soil is abundant. Dark Thoughts has provided a good list. One thing he didn't mention which is another noob trap is the temperature ranges on the seeds. I think he meant this in item 1, but ignore the temperature ranges. Getting 75% to 50% yield on a crop is better than nothing. Also don't wait for wild seeds to mature before you pick them. Grab every wild crop ASAP and plant it as he says. PS. Eat the wolf puppies! The meat just falls off the bone.

That's why you eat both of them!

They most certainly could spawn in your house pre-1.21 or at least back to 1.18 when I first started playing. I had one spawn on top of me in my very first base.

Wolf puppies are good eating.

Are you saying you set your spawn in the building and it kicks you out on respawn?

Actually, I would say most people in this thread, even @LadyWYT, is okay with changes as long as they mesh with the story.

True, but you have to accept that the creators of the game want there to be Lore. Tyron and his wife have made that decision so when suggesting ideas it is better to suggest something that fall in line with their vision of the game.

There is not supposed to be a safe place. Anything you do to block the spawn of the drifter is basically an exploit. They have slowly patched them out and as far as I know a drifter can spawn directly on top of you in a hidey hole, it is just extremely rare.

There can always be an alternative. Just like almost everyone gets tin bronze and never look at the other types of bronze, but sometimes Bismuth bronze is the way to go because you have zinc and bismuth readily available right next to your base and no tin. Then there was that one playthrough where I ended up with a black bronze anvil by some freak of RNG. Similiarly, there could be a main path of using the storms to progress some mission for the lore or alternatively Tobias can give you a fetch quest to a bunch of locations where you are able to get the same result and both would advance the story and mesh in with the lore. I agree with you and one thing we need to remember is the lore doens't even define them. It just says they exist and they used to be worse in the past. People on the forums attribute all kinds of things to the LORRRRRE that aren't written in the lore. If berry bushes and forging can change then so can the sacred Temporal storms IMO.