CastIronFabric
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The only thing that has worked well for me is running until I see it on the surface/mountains. Same for rock types for lime. In my pre release game I am playing now I ran 20,000 blocks before finding limestone. Now granted I ran straight south for other reasons as well but regardless of which direction it can take a long time to find a specific rock type.
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I am done here, moving on
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Let me make sure I understand you are saying that Tyron has explicitly stated that they want drifters to appear from the portal as a new change Can you please give me the source of that, thank you. Please understand if your response is highly obfuscated I will likely just move on
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sorry you lost me so I will put it another way, using your logic 1. If what the developers decides to do is the final say and people should not dispute it then spear changes are fine, per your own logic. 2. drifters coming out of portals is not even something the developers have weighed in on, so per your logic, its value is undetermined until they do so its not worth talking about. This has nothing to do with me, so I am confused there.
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keep in mind, the feature in question that started this entire conversation does not even exist. It was an idea suggested by players and not weighed in on at all from the developers. So we already have a logic flaw in the argument of 'if the developer wants it so it shall be' because the developer has not weighed in on this idea at all, likely does not even know it exists.
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so I was originally correct, ok my misunderstanding. your position is that feature in the game as it is has been the developers decision on how the game should be, therefore its pointless to disagree with such decisions. As such criticism of the game design from anyone (including yourself) is really unwarranted. fair enough, got it However, what does it mean if you are making suggestions to a feature that does not exist and has not been created yet and the developers have not weighed in on? You cant really pull the 'this is how the devs decided to do it' card if you are talking about drifters coming out of a portal, that would not make sense becasue the feature does not exist. Additionally, even if its a feature that does not exist you cant really weigh in on it because its value is not determined by you but rather determined by the developers and if they developers have not weight in on it, then you logically have no position to make an opinon on it.
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here is where you said if you 'if not there are options'. what does that mean exactly? are you saying that if you do not agree with the vision of the devs that you think your suggestions to change it is valid? despite saying the devs decisions are basically immutable? by 'if not there are options' do you mean if its not the vision of the developers? if so, how do you know which features they have created are in their vision or not without asking them?
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1.22.0-pre.1 - Fishing, Mechanisms, Metalworking and More!
CastIronFabric replied to Tyron's topic in News
From my understanding flowing water for waterwheels can not be captured in a bucket. I am not sure if changes to regular or just cant. Now, one could make a river from the flowing water to your location, maybe that is the intent, that could be intresting -
I am going to try and backpaddle my way out of this conversation. I do not feel like its built on a foundation that I could reasonably work with
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you do it all the time. If its a feature you like and someone challenges you on it you eventually resort to 'this is the way the developer intends for it to be and that is how it should be because that is how they intend it to be'. Now how SPECIFICALLY you know what the developer intends or not is another subject but yes you do that rather often.
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1.22.0-pre.1 - Fishing, Mechanisms, Metalworking and More!
CastIronFabric replied to Tyron's topic in News
no. I do not approve of waterwheels be restricted this way for reasons I think should be self evident and my opinon on that is immutable -
I want to make sure I completely understand your position on this before I respond. You are stating that if you go into a cave to do some prospecting and you place dirt blocks around to protect yourself from getting attacked by difters you consider that 'abusing game mechanics' do I have the correct?
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so here is the logic 1. if you agree with the developers vision then nobody else should question those decisions because the its how the developer has decided to make the game 2. if you do not agree with the developer vision on a feature then you can dispute it. and to be clear when I say you I mean specifically you not the abstract 'you' do I have that right?
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that even gets worse not only do you want to force people to play as the developer dictates, you do not even care about their opinion on the matter. that should make you pause. But with your stance you are basically taking the position that any and all suggestions, ideas or change requests need to stop because it would contradict the developers intention.
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1.22.0-pre.1 - Fishing, Mechanisms, Metalworking and More!
CastIronFabric replied to Tyron's topic in News
I do not agree with this game design specifically for this game. 1. I do not want to be restricted by where I can build, yes I understand that will always be that but lets not go out of our way to make even more restrictions. 2. the chances that you are going to be able to find a location that is reasonable enough for your village build AND near rapid waters is fairly low. -
There are moments that people do not notice when they should be giving themselves pause. Suggesting others should play a game the way a developer intended would be one of those times.
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Let me ask you a simple quesiton. If I got into a cave and I put blocks around me so that monsters can not attack me, am I hacking the system? should developer take time to remove that ability so that I am forced to fight with monsters? OR..if you think its cheeky you can just simply not do that.
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1.22.0-pre.1 - Fishing, Mechanisms, Metalworking and More!
CastIronFabric replied to Tyron's topic in News
agreed. My gut tells me more cooking options is coming (generally speaking). I do not think they did what they did with fat on this round just to leave its point empty. I might watch some Townsends 18th century cooking videos on that subject to get some hints -
if a person thinks putting a fence over the portal to prevent monsters from coming at them is wrong, they can simply not do it. Just like when you are in a cave, you have the OPTION to use blocks to protect yourself from monsters coming at you in a cave or you can choose not to do so and fight them instead. its that simple
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you seriously want to be the guy who is arguing for 'put in effort to force players to do something that they do not want to do instead of just adovacting for players to not use a hack if they do not want to'. you really want to be that guy
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oh trust me, that is much better than 'if you do not like it go play another game'
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yeah which is why I find it impossible to believe that the storms and drifter spawning in a persons base is one of the top compelling reasons why they enjoy playing vintage story. Those that allude to that position I just am unable to take seriously (and that is my watered down polite way of saying it). Also, I find my suggestion of 'going TO the storm instead of the storm coming to you' being viewed by some as outlandish and unacceptable line to never be crossed to be extremely ridiculous
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I do not know what this mechanic is but I will say this. Minecraft has a flyer, Colony Survival has a flyer. Maybe its time for developers to not copy each other. My personal key pet peeve is 'why does every friggin building game ever have to have some kind of monsters coming at you at night while your working on your base?' ALL of them. why?
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a more polite way would be to suggest looking at possible mods.
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that is not a logical flow AND not related, such a comparative statement here would not apply logically anyway. What is or is not 'eaiser' is highly subjective given your framing. You are trying to suggest that having drifters crawl out of a portal is 'easy'. Is it? is it really easier than it is now? no its not. What I would suggest instead is just try not to defend 'forcing a player into a gaming experience that they do not want' and just call this one a loss of debate and move on instead of doubling down on it. EDIT: before replying with a counter point in a desire to justify your position hear my advice following: I do not think its wise to try and defend the position of 'forcing a player to do something that they do not want to do'. I think its better to punt on that before you find yourself being 'that guy'. If a player thinks building a fence is cheeky they can just simply not do it.
