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Ashantin (who loves sailing) did a video demonstration just before the stable 1.20 release: My Understanding Of The Landcover & Upheaval Balance I do not know if her understanding is correct or not, but I thought the demo was interesting. She goes over her setting choices (and you can see the results) for the upcoming 1.22 release in this playlist: Vintage Story Setting Up My 1.22 World

I really like the idea of tailor-made lining that adds warmth to clothing! I wonder how the devs plan to end the crafting grid for fibers to thread and from thread to cloth? I am aware that there is a mod, but I look forward to having spinning and weaving added to vanilla. If they are added, perhaps a primitive version (drop spindle and table top loom) could be available for anyone to make basic thread & cloth, while a more advanced tailor-exclusive version could make refined cloth, larger sizes and more efficient quantities. I'm not sure where sailcloth making would fit into this though. If I were ever to play multiplayer, I don't think I'd like having to purchase sailcloth.

Thank you for mentioning this. It was helpful when crafting hand baskets.

I've seen ocean fish in several worlds. I wasn't making a point of looking though, and not sure if there were any fresh water fish.

I must say that this is an interesting comment, especially the first part, in light of the recent berry discussion. I'm no longer in discord, and I generally do not play the non-stable versions (I need the Accessibility Tweaks mod). So my entire knowledge of berries came from Tyron's post, and maybe one or two player comments in the news threads. Tyron made other comments in discord that I was not aware of until someone posted them here. Those comments completely changed my opinion, and I felt assured that everything would be fine. I even saw the berries for myself in rc-2, briefly, but I feel good about the berries now. All of that to say, some of us are not getting the benefit of additional input from the dev team unless someone thinks to post it here. Is it possible that this is contributing to strong reactions within the forum? For the difference in generations -- I am unclear as to whether my comments (about fertilization of berries as being unrealistic) were problematic, falling into the category of, 'if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all'. If so, it is not a "younger" generational thing as I am probably the oldest person here. And it also raises my curiosity as to how my comments were perceived. Now that I'm thinking about it in light of the poll, I'm wondering if I should have kept my thoughts to myself. My comments were not meant as criticism, but maybe that is how they were perceived. With these thoughts in mind, I have to answer "other" to the second question as I am currently feeling uncomfortable and self-conscious (I mean, I am literally puzzling this out as I write and wondering if someone will take it in a way other than what I am trying to convey) Full disclosure: I am socially awkward, do speak bluntly, and often say precisely what I am thinking. Yes, I've noticed this too (and agree with your other comments). Actually, I suspect this may be the most common area of conflict. Which reminds me that I was a bit put-off by people saying that they were tired of hearing about berries. Well, no, actually I think the comment that bothered me was something along the lines of we were being an emotional drain. I was under the impression that these forums are where we can discuss our thoughts and opinions, but if someone else has already heard it all, then we are not allowed to say anything? I dunno... it just doesn't sit well with me somehow. I really love my berries (irl) and had something to say. Now I am unsure if that is okay or not. So, um, yeah. My answer to the last two questions is "Other" and you've witnessed the process of me thinking it through. (and again I find myself hesitating - is someone going to think I'm being argumentative? Or critical? or something else that I haven't thought of yet?) If the poll had been conducted before The Great Berry Kerfuffle, then my answers would have been "Yes." That is a good question. Realizing that we are all different, and choosing not to be offended by those differences, would go a long way to keep it from becoming personal. Realizing that it is okay for someone else to express their thoughts, just as you've expressed yours (we needn't strive to 'have the last word'). I imagine that acknowledgement of the other person's point would also help them feel 'heard' which helps the discussion stay in the realm of exchanging ideas (even opposing ideas) rather than argument.

Don't worry, @space llama. We've seen some rough spots in the forums but they've always smoothed back out again. Folks may also be more mindful after reading this thread; I know that I will. If ever there is someone that is being disruptive, you can always mute them so that you do not see their posts (or their tag lines, or whatever you choose). The mods are also here to help, so don't hesitate to report problematic behavior! I can't speak for discord though; I stopped going there several years ago. It saddens me that you might leave because you seem like a really nice person. I hope that you will stick around. (I also tend to retreat and can relate to what you are saying)

The atmosphere cycles up and down [observation over several years]. If anyone is truly out of line, the moderators will step in. I only have a few minutes, so only skimmed the bulk of the thread. I don't think anyone has mentioned the cultural makeup of this forum... There is a book that talks about cultural differences and how what is normal for one culture is offensive to another: Kiss, Bow, or Shake Hands. I've seen this play out here, where someone from a country that is known for having blunt speech was treated with intolerance, no doubt because what he was saying was considered extremely rude and argumentative. Same bluntness can be true for neurodivergence, or some cognitive impairments, etc. Here is why I think it is important: Tone is provided by the reader. If that reader comes from a culture where bluntness or directness is offensive, then all kinds of negative connotations will be assigned to what has been said. I totally exasperated a friend from Hong Kong one day because his speech was so indirect that I had no idea what he was trying to say until he spelled it out very clearly. It was something we had to realize about each other and come to terms with. My bluntness was uncomfortable for him, and his indirectness / 'politeness' was lost on me. Anyway, your poll opens up an interesting topic and I look forward to coming back to finish reading later.

You're welcome! You may find this mod, Accessibility Tweaks, useful. With it you can selectively disable sounds within the game (not music though, as far as I know). It even has an option to show only those that are currently running, which makes it SO much easier to find the problematic sounds. This mod will not be updated until there is a stable release of 1.22 though.

Putting your request in the Questions forum would get more eyes on it. If it were me, I would identify the file name by sorting the music files by date created (or date modified) - music files are located under the game folder > assets > survival > music Then either remove the file, or replace the file by choosing one you'd prefer and rename it to the one you dislike. I do not know if my method is wise or foolish, it is just how I'd approach it (not any sort of expert or anything). eta: Welcome to the forums! Just noticed that you are new. If you have any timidity about my approach, I'm sure there are others more knowledgeable that may be able to tell you the proper way to do it. I'd ask in the Questions forum.

@LadyWYT Yes, this has been my understanding as well. I'm coming from an American perspective; I wonder how it might differ in some European countries that are so similar to us but sometimes have distinct differences? Even in the US there can be regional differences -- I'm thinking cornbread and chili, for instance; some people make it the hill to die on as to whether or not something can be called chili, etc. Our family recipes/expectations reflect the region that great grandparents lived before migrating to California. Anyway, now that rc 2 has dropped, I'm gonna dive in!

Btw, I initially thought you were saying that honey could not be used to preserve fruit (even though you did include that in your post, it didn't register in my brain). Hence my insistence that it was indeed possible based on my own experience. I am sorry for causing a commotion about the naming of said preserved fruit. My cookbooks called it jam; I don't have any knowledge about jam vs preserves, etc.

Uhhhh... hot-water bath shelf-stable jam can absolutely be made with honey. I've done it myself, years ago, following recipes found in canning books.

It seems unbalanced/unfair, imo, that my thoughts on realistic immersion differ from yours (I own a blueberry orchard, btw) and yet my expressing my thoughts on the subject is being called an "emotional drain." I can understand how you've probably already been saturated on the subject since you participate both here and in discord, so I do sympathize to some extent. However not all of us have already discussed it, and we should be able to express our opinions too.

I don't think I've seen anyone object to making berries less exploitable, @Doctorgeo7. The objections are to the way it is being implemented, and there have been some thoughtful alternatives suggested.

I love this idea! I'm also not a fan of the NEED for fertilization, strictly as a matter of principle. As an avid gardener, some of these berry changes just rub me the wrong way as they are completely unrealistic -- much the same objection I had to gating farming behind copper working, back in the day. I get it that there is an effort being made to balance the game, but this method is hard (for me) to accept due to it being so unrealistic.