LaleneMan Posted November 29 Report Posted November 29 Been looking at the commodities trader for ages: is the only way to get diamond, off-set, and square stitch linen is to make it as a tailor? I've tried to look elsewhere online for an answer and I've never been able to get one for this question specifically.
Solution Brady_The Posted November 29 Solution Report Posted November 29 9 hours ago, LaleneMan said: is the only way to get diamond, off-set, and square stitch linen is to make it as a tailor? It's either the commodities trader or the sewing kit. However, you can disable class exclusive recipes with the command /wc classExclusiveRecipes false which I recommend doing, because it opens up the game quite a bit, especially in a Singleplayer world. 1
Thorfinn Posted November 29 Report Posted November 29 Welcome to the forums, @LaleneMan! I'd think a bit before enabling class-exclusive recipes. Many of those are compensations for other limitations in the class. Tailor, for example, gets access to a superior linen armor because he has little else to recommend choosing the class. Giving a Hunter access to a superior light armor cheapens the experience. You can't "cheat" in a single-player game, no, but you can lessen the experience intended by the class design. Similar to the tabletop of "My Barbarian has access to all Magic-User spells at Archmage proficiency." If you decide to enable class recipes, bear in mind that next time you can choose that at world creation and not have to find the command.
LaleneMan Posted November 29 Author Report Posted November 29 1 minute ago, Thorfinn said: Welcome to the forums, @LaleneMan! I'd think a bit before enabling class-exclusive recipes. Many of those are compensations for other limitations in the class. Tailor, for example, gets access to a superior linen armor because he has little else to recommend choosing the class. Giving a Hunter access to a superior light armor cheapens the experience. You can't "cheat" in a single-player game, no, but you can lessen the experience intended by the class design. Similar to the tabletop of "My Barbarian has access to all Magic-User spells at Archmage proficiency." If you decide to enable class recipes, bear in mind that next time you can choose that at world creation and not have to find the command. I figured as much, but good to get it confirmed. Sadly, I needed diamond-stitched linen to make a windmill.
Thorfinn Posted November 29 Report Posted November 29 The handbook can be a little confusing at start. That's one of the variant recipes. If you wait, it will cycle through the rest. All you need is linen, any type, to make windmills. 1
Brady_The Posted November 29 Report Posted November 29 (edited) 15 hours ago, LaleneMan said: I figured as much, but good to get it confirmed. Sadly, I needed diamond-stitched linen to make a windmill. Oh. I thought you were interested in crafting fancy clothing. You stumbled across the recipe rotation problem instead. Recipes rotate through all possible combinations (more easily noticeable on the chest recipe for example, combining all sorts of different planks). If you hover a recipe it will stop the rotation, so that the player gets the chance to examine the recipe. You happened to stop the recipe which showcased the diamond-stitched linen. All "default" linen recipes like sails or gambeson accept all sorts of linen, including the normal version. Edited November 30 by Brady_The No recipes require exclusively fancy stitching. 1
Brady_The Posted November 29 Report Posted November 29 1 hour ago, Facethief said: Then what is special linen for? Currently probably/maybe just as wallpaper or flooring with different patterns? I have absolutely no idea. At this time there don't seem to be any exclusive uses in Vanilla.
ifoz Posted November 30 Report Posted November 30 5 hours ago, Brady_The said: Currently probably/maybe just as wallpaper or flooring with different patterns? I have absolutely no idea. At this time there don't seem to be any exclusive uses in Vanilla. The only thing that special linen is used for is being placed on blocks as decoration. There are no crafting recipes - tailor or not - that require fancy linen.
LaleneMan Posted November 30 Author Report Posted November 30 14 hours ago, Brady_The said: Oh. I thought you were interested in crafting fancy clothing. You stumbled across the recipe rotation problem instead. Recipes rotate through all possible combinations (more easily noticeable on the chest recipe for example, combining all sorts of different planks). If you hover a recipe it will stop the rotation, so that the player gets the chance to examine the recipe. You happened to stop the recipe which showcased the diamond-stitched linen. All "default" linen recipes like sails or gambeson accept all sorts of linen, including the normal version. I can't believe it. I never hovered over the linen items in the recipe chart multiple times, because I just assumed it was x2 Normal and x2 Diamond this entire time. After you said this, I went back to check and you're entirely right. All this time... Well, glad to know for the future. 4
Krougal Posted December 1 Report Posted December 1 The thing about the class recipes is MP you can likely find someone of another class to trade with. SP you don't have that option, so why cut yourself completely out of certain items.
LadyWYT Posted December 1 Report Posted December 1 9 minutes ago, Krougal said: The thing about the class recipes is MP you can likely find someone of another class to trade with. SP you don't have that option, so why cut yourself completely out of certain items. Very true, although for reasons you might keep class-exclusive enabled in singleplayer: extra challenge, or just for roleplaying purposes. I generally tend to turn off class-exclusive recipes, so I can have access to whatever items I think make sense for the character that I'm playing.
Echo Weaver Posted December 1 Report Posted December 1 On 11/29/2024 at 10:50 AM, Brady_The said: It's either the commodities trader or the sewing kit. However, you can disable class exclusive recipes with the command /wc classExclusiveRecipes false which I recommend doing, because it opens up the game quite a bit, especially in a Singleplayer world. Thanks for this command. I was looking around for it and hadn't found it yet. I'd rather have access to all recipes on a single-player game, at least until I'm looking for additional challenge.
Krougal Posted December 1 Report Posted December 1 11 hours ago, Echo Weaver said: Thanks for this command. I was looking around for it and hadn't found it yet. I'd rather have access to all recipes on a single-player game, at least until I'm looking for additional challenge. The world settings page on the wiki is pretty comprehensive, you can fiddle with a lot of settings after the fact. Although some of the settings won't take effect on an already created Seraph, like HP you need to adjust directly.
Thorfinn Posted December 1 Report Posted December 1 13 hours ago, Krougal said: SP you don't have that option, so why cut yourself completely out of certain items. Because none of those items are essential. They are all perquisites of accepting the package of advantages and disadvantages of a given class. Not much point of even having a class system if you "cheat" around it anyway. Yes, yes, I know you can't really cheat in a single player game. Which is why I don't feel at all bad about setting my max HP to maxint-12.5. (Any higher and as you gain nutrition HP, it wraps around to -maxint.)
Khornet Posted Friday at 12:42 AM Report Posted Friday at 12:42 AM On 11/29/2024 at 10:43 PM, Facethief said: Then what is special linen for? Many people don't know that you can place linen on the ground as a form of a "carpeting". Have different sewing patterns exclusively acquired via cold, hard, rusty cash is a matter of flexing.
Krougal Posted Friday at 04:39 AM Report Posted Friday at 04:39 AM On 12/1/2024 at 12:56 PM, Thorfinn said: Not much point of even having a class system. Fixed that for you! 1
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