Vintage Story: Adventure Mode

[Echo Weaver]

8 minutes ago, Oto Nokyo said:

Tyron basically told us in this thread that everything on the roadmap, including the next chapters in the game, may never exist. If it's on the roadmap it's not promised so it's not a roadmap at all. Just a pipedream of potential possibilities.

I wouldn't use the term "pipedream," but I admit that I wouldn't use the term "roadmap" for that list, and that's obviously what they call it. It's a checklist of cool stuff that the team thinks ought to be in the game. It's not, as said many times, either a timeline or a set of promises.

My remark was intended to point out that VS development is working as intended -- it's a journey of updates, not a single completed thing that gets done. Each chapter is essentially an expansion, except they're not priced that way.

[Echo Weaver]

12 minutes ago, dakko said:

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Nevermind.. I'm getting too annoyed by the antagonistic comments. The whole tone here has become like the Steam forums.

And literally every other game forum I've ever been a part of. Whenever topics like the direction of game development come up, the thread is always the same -- no matter if it's a AAA title, an indie game with a couple of developers, or something in between. It kind of astonishes me.

[Maelstrom]

3 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

And literally every other game forum I've ever been a part of. Whenever topics like the direction of game development come up, the thread is always the same -- no matter if it's a AAA title, an indie game with a couple of developers, or something in between. It kind of astonishes me.

Re-reading my last comment, I'm with @dakko seeing how my emotional investment is getting childishly large affecting how I post in a less than mature way.

 

At this point it seems locking this thread would be prudent.

[Echo Weaver]

Just now, Maelstrom said:

At this point it seems locking this thread would be prudent.

I just hope Tyron isn't getting pissed off and considering going back on the whole plan. It's a great plan, and when it gets going, it will generate a lot of excitement.

I don't think I could handle working in game development for this very reason. You pour your soul in to building something that is explicitly supposed to be fun for people, and then you get this kind of pile-on whenever you discuss your ideas in any open-ended way.

[Blitcut]

59 minutes ago, Oto Nokyo said:

Tyron basically told us in this thread that everything on the roadmap, including the next chapters in the game, may never exist. If it's on the roadmap it's not promised so it's not a roadmap at all. Just a pipedream of potential possibilities.

That's nothing new though. The introductory paragraphs on the roadmap has said that from the start.

[fromtia]

I came to VS very recently , I've put about 200 hours into a single player world now, I come from 15 years of mine craft mostly. This game is just staggeringly good and an absolute joy. It has been created lovingly and with great care. Roadmaps, development teams and so on , yeah that all seems pretty great , this team seems to know what they are doing, I'm not a game developer, but this all seems pretty sober and reasonable. Great job everyone! Hytale folded? Bring some people on board to do a new game mode? yep, sounds great , Elves and dwarfs? I'm in you son of a bitch! If y'all can make a game this good , I trust that you know whats up and you'll  do pretty much a great job. 

The level of just eye wateringly juvenile hostility is breathtaking. For everyone serving up the Haterade, why not just do what was done by others and go make your own game? If you are the experts you say you are on development and design and everything else, why not just go for it and go do it the way you think it should be done? Hmm?

For everyone involved in VS - keep up the amazing work, I'm excited for the future of VS and whatever else! 

[Echo Weaver]

While being defensive of the team and the existing game, I don't think I mentioned that I am TOTALLY PSYCHED for a game by this team with high fantasy RPG.

[dakko]

1 hour ago, Echo Weaver said:

I don't think I could handle working in game development for this very reason. You pour your soul in to building something that is explicitly supposed to be fun for people, and then you get this kind of pile-on whenever you discuss your ideas in any open-ended way.

Same here. My concern is that some on the team may be more prone to burnout under these conditions - I know I would. I hope the team is wearing their non-stick armor so that the comments slide off!

(eta for clarification: our community should be able to discuss opposing views and their rationale without devolving into disparaging comments or trying to force our own view above all others)

Edited July 7, 2025 by dakko

[Foe Hammer]

18 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

While being defensive of the team and the existing game, I don't think I mentioned that I am TOTALLY PSYCHED for a game by this team with high fantasy RPG.

I am as well! I am a big fan of the fantasy/high fantasy aesthetic so I am very excited to see what they come up with, even if I never decide to play the "Adventure Mode". It would be cool to see how far they can take the VS engine, which based on some mods I have seen, is probably to the moon and back.

[Rudometkin]

On 7/5/2025 at 6:12 AM, Tyron said:

Vintage Story will remain the gritty uncompromising wilderness survival you know today - with more survival mechanics to be added in the future. Saraty would kill me if that were to ever change

I love to hear it!!

[Rudometkin]

4 hours ago, Oto Nokyo said:

Tyron basically told us in this thread that everything on the roadmap, including the next chapters in the game, may never exist. If it's on the roadmap it's not promised so it's not a roadmap at all. Just a pipedream of potential possibilities. 

Where?

[Stank_Zappa]

It would be phenomenal to see these new devs make a solid combat system that can be used for VS. I'm really looking forward to see what they put out!

[dakko]

58 minutes ago, Rudometkin said:

Where?

I think it is in the addition to his original post, where he addresses the questions and issues that have been brought up.

[ThatMidwestDullahan]

fantasy or high fantasy i think would pair with survival and creative naming pretty well would be great to get more of a rp roleplay like element out of it feels like survive tents to lose alot of that also a race and role system would be awesome with like race perks that apply to the roles like dwarfs being good at smithing and artificery and elfs being good at farming and hunting would also love some other races like goblins or kobults or maybe even druids giants and so on to play in to the fantasy theme even more  

Edited July 8, 2025 by ThatMidwestDullahan

[TabebuiaChrysotricha]

I can only say that if I was tyron this entire comment chain would've made me just quit right then and there. This is what gets communities called "toxic" and drives people away.

[Cleitus]

16 minutes ago, Nenelove said:

I can only say that if I was tyron this entire comment chain would've made me just quit right then and there. This is what gets communities called "toxic" and drives people away.

God forbid people have their own opinions. Granted, a couple of posts have been overly antagonistic, but that doesn't mean this thread is toxic simply because some people disagree. 

[Tyron]

I slept over this, there are indeed some sparks of truth in the criticism, even if worded in a very confrontational manner. I might be overly paranoid over adding more team members to the core team. There are some possible roles within the team that should not require much oversight / communication if clearly laid out. Either way, we can do both. I will discuss it with the team. 

The new mode will definitively happen nonetheless because its the right thing to do. Thanks again for everyone's feedback, but please remain kind and civil with each other.

 

 

[BS3]

Hi Tyron, I am that one Youtuber(하루_haru) from Korea who made 100 days survival video about Vintage Story.

I know this reply might not reach you but,

I just wanted to say that as a long time gamer, I have nothing but a good faith in your work and vision.

Through out my experience in your game and regular update logs, I have spotted so many well thought out details and your love and passion for this game.

(ex : The fact that game is created as a mod on a engine, So many mundane features such as respawn was implemented as a lore and not just for the sake of a game mechanics,  Delights in your devlog when RAM usage was reduced, and so on)

I just want you to know that even the small details that you and your team puts into your game are noticed and highly appreciated.

I have no doubt, once again you and your original and new team will accomplish great things.

Cheers!

Edited July 8, 2025 by BS3

[Loire]

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Adding more team members to the original VS is very difficult

 

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Finishing Vintage Story in its full glory would take another 10 to 20 years

So you're taking the money people spent on the early access game and putting it into a different game, just because you can't allocate more resources to the original game. This isn’t even funny.
This attempt to replace a canceled popular game feels wrong. I don’t expect the same passion for this one as there was for the original. Why bother? Just greed?

[FlareUKCS]

16 minutes ago, Loire said:

 

So you're taking the money people spent on the early access game and putting it into a different game, just because you can't allocate more resources to the original game. This isn’t even funny.
This attempt to replace a canceled popular game feels wrong. I don’t expect the same passion for this one as there was for the original. Why bother? Just greed?

What is with this  entitlement ? You paid for a product that you received, a product that told you it was still in development, that would take a while... not donating to a crowd funding venture. Anego is fully in the right to use the proceeds of the business as they see fit. 

What's with this 'I paid you money and now you are not doing what I want' way of thinking ? You have what you paid for, if you are not happy then refund the damn thing and get lost, the community does not need such entitled people.

[Voldemort]

3 hours ago, Tyron said:

I slept over this, there are indeed some sparks of truth in the criticism, even if worded in a very confrontational manner. I might be overly paranoid over adding more team members to the core team. There are some possible roles within the team that should not require much oversight / communication if clearly laid out. Either way, we can do both. I will discuss it with the team. 

The new mode will definitively happen nonetheless because its the right thing to do. Thanks again for everyone's feedback, but please remain kind and civil with each other.

 

 

Thank you.  

[MaîtreBlaise]

4 hours ago, Tyron said:

I slept over this, there are indeed some sparks of truth in the criticism, even if worded in a very confrontational manner. I might be overly paranoid over adding more team members to the core team. There are some possible roles within the team that should not require much oversight / communication if clearly laid out. Either way, we can do both. I will discuss it with the team. 

The new mode will definitively happen nonetheless because its the right thing to do. Thanks again for everyone's feedback, but please remain kind and civil with each other.

Thank you Tyron for your transparency, your calmness, and your ability to question things while still keeping a clear vision.

Many people forget that running a studio isn't just about coding a game — it's about taking care of a team, a community, and a long-term vision.

I’m looking forward to the future of Vintage Story and the new project. I’m proud to support a studio that works with passion, respect, and clarity.

Stay strong, and to the whole team: don’t let the noise drown out the true voices — even if we, the silent part of the community, aren’t always loud, we’re still here and we believe in you.

[Foe Hammer]

4 hours ago, Tyron said:

I slept over this, there are indeed some sparks of truth in the criticism, even if worded in a very confrontational manner. I might be overly paranoid over adding more team members to the core team. There are some possible roles within the team that should not require much oversight / communication if clearly laid out. Either way, we can do both. I will discuss it with the team. 

The new mode will definitively happen nonetheless because its the right thing to do. Thanks again for everyone's feedback, but please remain kind and civil with each other.

 

 

This response, and your willingness to find merit in arguments even when buried under hostility and accusations, reinforces my faith in you and your team.

King stuff my man, keep your head high.

[Foe Hammer]

9 hours ago, ThatMidwestDullahan said:

fantasy or high fantasy i think would pair with survival and creative naming pretty well would be great to get more of a rp roleplay like element out of it feels like survive tents to lose alot of that also a race and role system would be awesome with like race perks that apply to the roles like dwarfs being good at smithing and artificery and elfs being good at farming and hunting would also love some other races like goblins or kobults or maybe even druids giants and so on to play in to the fantasy theme even more  

I agree I am excited to see stuff like this, and with it built on the same engine and framework I can see mods that let people mix the two if they wish. I know I want the two separate cause I know I am likely in the minority, but that ability to mix them if you wish matches with how amazing the modding scene of this game is. The ease of access to it, as well as the provided tools and wiki tutorials are inspiring me to contribute one day in some way.

Edited July 8, 2025 by Foe Hammer
Forgot bolding was a feature lol.

[Brigadier Elm]

I think Tyron has succinctly addressed the real concerns about Anego's stability and future, as well as that of Vintage Story.

I think anyone postulating about "you took my money and didn't give me the completed game" is off the mark anyway, as the game has a good amount of content already and as of right now has not showed signs of slowing down updates. I do want to see VS become what I believe it could be - a landmark title in game development history.

Thanks @Tyron for keeping an open door to discussion, and whatever internal decisions occur I believe you're acting in good faith which is all we can ask for. I look forward to the future of VS, Anego, and whatever the new project becomes.

All the best to the team as well, and thanks to Pizza for the shelving update, it was much needed