Vintage Story: Adventure Mode

[Rudometkin]

4 hours ago, Oto Nokyo said:

Tyron basically told us in this thread that everything on the roadmap, including the next chapters in the game, may never exist. If it's on the roadmap it's not promised so it's not a roadmap at all. Just a pipedream of potential possibilities. 

Where?

[Stank_Zappa]

It would be phenomenal to see these new devs make a solid combat system that can be used for VS. I'm really looking forward to see what they put out!

[dakko]

58 minutes ago, Rudometkin said:

Where?

I think it is in the addition to his original post, where he addresses the questions and issues that have been brought up.

[ThatMidwestDullahan]

fantasy or high fantasy i think would pair with survival and creative naming pretty well would be great to get more of a rp roleplay like element out of it feels like survive tents to lose alot of that also a race and role system would be awesome with like race perks that apply to the roles like dwarfs being good at smithing and artificery and elfs being good at farming and hunting would also love some other races like goblins or kobults or maybe even druids giants and so on to play in to the fantasy theme even more  

Edited July 8, 2025 by ThatMidwestDullahan

[TabebuiaChrysotricha]

I can only say that if I was tyron this entire comment chain would've made me just quit right then and there. This is what gets communities called "toxic" and drives people away.

[Cleitus]

16 minutes ago, Nenelove said:

I can only say that if I was tyron this entire comment chain would've made me just quit right then and there. This is what gets communities called "toxic" and drives people away.

God forbid people have their own opinions. Granted, a couple of posts have been overly antagonistic, but that doesn't mean this thread is toxic simply because some people disagree. 

[Tyron]

I slept over this, there are indeed some sparks of truth in the criticism, even if worded in a very confrontational manner. I might be overly paranoid over adding more team members to the core team. There are some possible roles within the team that should not require much oversight / communication if clearly laid out. Either way, we can do both. I will discuss it with the team. 

The new mode will definitively happen nonetheless because its the right thing to do. Thanks again for everyone's feedback, but please remain kind and civil with each other.

 

 

[BS3]

Hi Tyron, I am that one Youtuber(하루_haru) from Korea who made 100 days survival video about Vintage Story.

I know this reply might not reach you but,

I just wanted to say that as a long time gamer, I have nothing but a good faith in your work and vision.

Through out my experience in your game and regular update logs, I have spotted so many well thought out details and your love and passion for this game.

(ex : The fact that game is created as a mod on a engine, So many mundane features such as respawn was implemented as a lore and not just for the sake of a game mechanics,  Delights in your devlog when RAM usage was reduced, and so on)

I just want you to know that even the small details that you and your team puts into your game are noticed and highly appreciated.

I have no doubt, once again you and your original and new team will accomplish great things.

Cheers!

Edited July 8, 2025 by BS3

[Loire]

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Adding more team members to the original VS is very difficult

 

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Finishing Vintage Story in its full glory would take another 10 to 20 years

So you're taking the money people spent on the early access game and putting it into a different game, just because you can't allocate more resources to the original game. This isn’t even funny.
This attempt to replace a canceled popular game feels wrong. I don’t expect the same passion for this one as there was for the original. Why bother? Just greed?

[FlareUKCS]

16 minutes ago, Loire said:

 

So you're taking the money people spent on the early access game and putting it into a different game, just because you can't allocate more resources to the original game. This isn’t even funny.
This attempt to replace a canceled popular game feels wrong. I don’t expect the same passion for this one as there was for the original. Why bother? Just greed?

What is with this  entitlement ? You paid for a product that you received, a product that told you it was still in development, that would take a while... not donating to a crowd funding venture. Anego is fully in the right to use the proceeds of the business as they see fit. 

What's with this 'I paid you money and now you are not doing what I want' way of thinking ? You have what you paid for, if you are not happy then refund the damn thing and get lost, the community does not need such entitled people.

[Voldemort]

3 hours ago, Tyron said:

I slept over this, there are indeed some sparks of truth in the criticism, even if worded in a very confrontational manner. I might be overly paranoid over adding more team members to the core team. There are some possible roles within the team that should not require much oversight / communication if clearly laid out. Either way, we can do both. I will discuss it with the team. 

The new mode will definitively happen nonetheless because its the right thing to do. Thanks again for everyone's feedback, but please remain kind and civil with each other.

 

 

Thank you.  

[MaîtreBlaise]

4 hours ago, Tyron said:

I slept over this, there are indeed some sparks of truth in the criticism, even if worded in a very confrontational manner. I might be overly paranoid over adding more team members to the core team. There are some possible roles within the team that should not require much oversight / communication if clearly laid out. Either way, we can do both. I will discuss it with the team. 

The new mode will definitively happen nonetheless because its the right thing to do. Thanks again for everyone's feedback, but please remain kind and civil with each other.

Thank you Tyron for your transparency, your calmness, and your ability to question things while still keeping a clear vision.

Many people forget that running a studio isn't just about coding a game — it's about taking care of a team, a community, and a long-term vision.

I’m looking forward to the future of Vintage Story and the new project. I’m proud to support a studio that works with passion, respect, and clarity.

Stay strong, and to the whole team: don’t let the noise drown out the true voices — even if we, the silent part of the community, aren’t always loud, we’re still here and we believe in you.

[Foe Hammer]

4 hours ago, Tyron said:

I slept over this, there are indeed some sparks of truth in the criticism, even if worded in a very confrontational manner. I might be overly paranoid over adding more team members to the core team. There are some possible roles within the team that should not require much oversight / communication if clearly laid out. Either way, we can do both. I will discuss it with the team. 

The new mode will definitively happen nonetheless because its the right thing to do. Thanks again for everyone's feedback, but please remain kind and civil with each other.

 

 

This response, and your willingness to find merit in arguments even when buried under hostility and accusations, reinforces my faith in you and your team.

King stuff my man, keep your head high.

[Foe Hammer]

9 hours ago, ThatMidwestDullahan said:

fantasy or high fantasy i think would pair with survival and creative naming pretty well would be great to get more of a rp roleplay like element out of it feels like survive tents to lose alot of that also a race and role system would be awesome with like race perks that apply to the roles like dwarfs being good at smithing and artificery and elfs being good at farming and hunting would also love some other races like goblins or kobults or maybe even druids giants and so on to play in to the fantasy theme even more  

I agree I am excited to see stuff like this, and with it built on the same engine and framework I can see mods that let people mix the two if they wish. I know I want the two separate cause I know I am likely in the minority, but that ability to mix them if you wish matches with how amazing the modding scene of this game is. The ease of access to it, as well as the provided tools and wiki tutorials are inspiring me to contribute one day in some way.

Edited July 8, 2025 by Foe Hammer
Forgot bolding was a feature lol.

[Brigadier Elm]

I think Tyron has succinctly addressed the real concerns about Anego's stability and future, as well as that of Vintage Story.

I think anyone postulating about "you took my money and didn't give me the completed game" is off the mark anyway, as the game has a good amount of content already and as of right now has not showed signs of slowing down updates. I do want to see VS become what I believe it could be - a landmark title in game development history.

Thanks @Tyron for keeping an open door to discussion, and whatever internal decisions occur I believe you're acting in good faith which is all we can ask for. I look forward to the future of VS, Anego, and whatever the new project becomes.

All the best to the team as well, and thanks to Pizza for the shelving update, it was much needed 

 

[Maelstrom]

16 hours ago, Echo Weaver said:

I just hope Tyron isn't getting pissed off and considering going back on the whole plan. 

I think he's just frustrated with a bunch of relatively new people to the community spouting off; acting like they know a thing or two about stuff they know absolutely nothing about (primarily how workload is handled). 

Frankly, I am frustrated too.  That's why I decided to stop responding to those posts, mostly coz I don't like what I see coming out of myself in my responses to them.

[CastIronFabric]

58 minutes ago, Maelstrom said:

I think he's just frustrated with a bunch of relatively new people to the community spouting off; acting like they know a thing or two about stuff they know absolutely nothing about (primarily how workload is handled). 

Frankly, I am frustrated too.  That's why I decided to stop responding to those posts, mostly coz I don't like what I see coming out of myself in my responses to them.

Well speaking personally, I am not interested in this other project given what few things we know about it.

From my view as long as I have access to the stable version of today and as long as the Dev community keep having all previous mod versions available then I am all good. Big changes always comes with risk. Keen did EXACTLY the same thing with Medieval Engineers. Multiple great streaming shows have been completely changed due to a writers change.

 

Maybe if I knew more details about this other game I would be interested but for me the word 'RPG' in the modern context almost always mean 'story focused' which I could not possibly be less interested in. 

Edited July 8, 2025 by CastIronFabric

[CastIronFabric]

17 hours ago, Echo Weaver said:

I just hope Tyron isn't getting pissed off and considering going back on the whole plan. It's a great plan, and when it gets going, it will generate a lot of excitement.

I don't think I could handle working in game development for this very reason. You pour your soul in to building something that is explicitly supposed to be fun for people, and then you get this kind of pile-on whenever you discuss your ideas in any open-ended way.

everyone keeps refering to this 'great plan' I would like to know more details. All I know thus far is

1. more RPG focused

2. more high fantasy focused.

3. aesthetic change.

Speaking personally I have zero interest in any of those. I am not complaining I am just saying I plan to stick to 'classic' VS, thanks.

[corred]

Also engine work that will help both games

[LadyWYT]

8 hours ago, Tyron said:

I slept over this, there are indeed some sparks of truth in the criticism, even if worded in a very confrontational manner. I might be overly paranoid over adding more team members to the core team. There are some possible roles within the team that should not require much oversight / communication if clearly laid out. Either way, we can do both. I will discuss it with the team. 

The new mode will definitively happen nonetheless because its the right thing to do. Thanks again for everyone's feedback, but please remain kind and civil with each other.

 

 

Do whatever you need to do. You and the rest of the team at Anego have done a great job so far!  I'm happy with the money I spent on the game, and look forward to what else you guys are cooking up.

[Maelstrom]

54 minutes ago, CastIronFabric said:

Well speaking personally, I am not interested in this other project given what few things we know about it.

From my view as long as I have access to the stable version of today and as long as the Dev community keep having all previous mod versions available then I am all good. Big changes always comes with risk. Keen did EXACTLY the same thing with Medieval Engineers. Multiple great streaming shows have been completely changed due to a writers change.

 

Maybe if I knew more details about this other game I would be interested but for me the word 'RPG' in the modern context almost always mean 'story focused' which I could not possibly be less interested in. 

Join date 1/25/25 - check.

You do not have anything to worry about.  From Tyron's own lips the new folks will be separate and independent of the main VS development that exists before the "Hytale" group was conceived.  That other group may develop something (probably a game mechanic) that could benefit the main VS development that will be incorporated into the main game.  This has happened in the recent past.  In 1.20 the map went to a sephia toned map where before it was full color.  That change was from a mod developed in 1.18, iirc.  You haven't been around long enough to see that kind of thing happen.  So take if from us old farts that you have nothing to worry about.

[Cingal]

I paid for Vintage Story, and I would appreciate if the entirety of the funds I provided go towards the development of the product I paid for. Whilst I wish you all the luck in the world on this new endeavour, I simply know nothing about it. I don't particularly have much interest at this current moment in time. Nor do I expect to experience this new product without an additional fee, and so, I can't really support the idea of using the funds provided by people who want Vintage Story going towards this other project. 

This may to some seem overly harsh. It's not my intention. I think Vintage Story is great. Making more games like Vintage Story could be great. I think your team is great, and I think Tyron himself is great and has produced a very enjoyable video game. I have no criticism aimed at the skill of anyone involved. I have no complaints of the conduct thus far, I find the ideology towards development very admirable.

I understand that growing a studio is not easy. I know the realities of game development mean that you can't be entirely accountable to your players and you can't produce itemised lists of expenses and tell them exactly what they're helping develop. This isn't a criticism of bad accounting. Nor is it an accusation of "Taking the money and running" or failing to deliver a product in a reasonable time. It's completely understandable the given the success of Vintage Story, these funds would be reinvested into the studio, and certainly from this it's reasonable to assume new projects would be developed. 

However. The elephant in the room is simply that Vintage Story is not finished, and that's fine. I'm not accusing anyone of lacking in their development of the project. I purchased this knowing full well that this was a long-haul, and I'm sure my financial contribution towards the project is but a meagre one. I'm not here to demand that having given you my $40 that you're therefore bound to my beck and call. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't feel a little wrong to be talking of newer greener pastures whilst the project is still unfinished.

I feel the fear from a lot of people is simply that what is being said here is effectively:

"I'm going to double my own work load, take some of the capital raised by Vintage Story and develop a new project. This won't have any effect on Vintage Story and everything is going to be great."

And, unfortunately this is a level of trust that a lot of developers have abused in the past. Steam Early Access is a graveyard of abandoned projects which were used as nothing more than a leapfrog to developer a "Bigger project". There's numerous games who've treated customers like "Backers" and told them they're in it together, only to use that money to develop cash shop items to resell back to the same "Backers" that paid for them to be developed in the first place. Even amongst the very large studios, Fortnite Save the World is a mere abandoned footnote compared to Fortnite Battle Royale.

I'm not saying that this is the direction Vintage Story is going, or accusing anyone of anything underhand. But, I am saying that many people are pretty weary to this sort of behaviour and trust to deliver on the promise of "A new project won't take away from the existing one" is extremely low. 

As it is, I think Tyron and the team have proven themselves capable of developing a very good game. However, and I don't mean to be disrespectful, you have yet to prove that you can finish the game. And that's kind of a big problem when you're talking about starting the development of a new game. You're asking us to trust you, and I'm sure there's many that will. But for many of us, it's simply too much of an ask because we're been here too many times before. Myself, I honestly think that a new project presents any number of reasons for why Vintage Story may slow down development, and I think that's unfair. I think if the new project is significantly more successful focus will pivot towards it. I think if the new project is more interesting (Which it undoubtable will be at first) then you won't balance the projects equally, and the new project will get more focus. 

I wish the best of luck with it, I really do. I wish I had the optimism to believe that this is a good thing. But if you pull it off you will be the exception to a pretty notable trend. And as it is, I think it's going to take a pretty consistent update schedule which continues to add significant content for the game, for the foreseeable future before any fears of this new project taking focus away will be absolved. 

 

[Voldemort]

40 minutes ago, Maelstrom said:

Join date 1/25/25 - check.

 

Not everyone is Redditor 

[Thorfinn]

33 minutes ago, Cingal said:

I paid for Vintage Story, and I would appreciate if the entirety of the funds I provided go towards the development of the product I paid for.

Oh, rest assured, it did. $20 doesn't go very far when you start writing paychecks. Or paying the unbelievably high bandwidth of ModDB.

I do sympathize with players who have these fears. Somewhat, anyway. And it doesn't just happen in games. It is way too commonplace in tech sector. You've been conditioned to be cynical. And conditioned to think of games as just games, not systems. Those who can't or won't avail themselves of the opportunity to learn how flexible this framework is are putting themselves in the situation that they have to just trust. And that is understandably difficult.

[CastIronFabric]

1 hour ago, Maelstrom said:

Join date 1/25/25 - check.

You do not have anything to worry about.  From Tyron's own lips the new folks will be separate and independent of the main VS development that exists before the "Hytale" group was conceived.  That other group may develop something (probably a game mechanic) that could benefit the main VS development that will be incorporated into the main game.  This has happened in the recent past.  In 1.20 the map went to a sephia toned map where before it was full color.  That change was from a mod developed in 1.18, iirc.  You haven't been around long enough to see that kind of thing happen.  So take if from us old farts that you have nothing to worry about.

like I said. 

Pretty much word for word what Keen said about Medieval Engineers. 

Now to be fair the project that got hurt was not Space Engineers it was Medieval Engineers.

Regardless of all of that, as long as I can download various major stable releases of the game up to this point then I am fine and not concerned. I am also however just not interested in this other project. I have not read anything specific that I find personally compelling for me.

 

Another example is 7 Days to Die. I love that game, I played it for about 1500hrs but once they started making major changes by adding Perk system and the like then I really really really no longer enjoyed the game, but as long as I can still download the older versions I am all good. I can not control what happens in the future, sometimes things go well, sometimes they don't but I sure do like being able to download previous versions

Edited July 8, 2025 by CastIronFabric