Brown Bears need a speed nerf badly

[Teh Pizza Lady]

1 minute ago, Discipline Before Dishonor said:

So... In your mind, this constitutes abusive verbiage? For real? Like... Snowflake mentality much?

yes

[Discipline Before Dishonor]

Anyway guys I fixed my problems. I made a mod right here https://mods.vintagestory.at/slowerbrownbears which reduces the speed of brown bears to be equal to black bears. I didn't make this next mod but it still works, I tested it in creative mode and nothing spawned in the well-lit area: https://mods.vintagestory.at/weatherthestorm. It effectively makes light level prevent spawns in a storm. Lastly, for anybody interested, I also made a class mod too so here it is: https://mods.vintagestory.at/orphanclass

Edited December 11, 2025 by Discipline Before Dishonor

[dakko]

1 minute ago, Discipline Before Dishonor said:

So... In your mind, this constitutes abusive verbiage? For real? Like... Snowflake mentality much?

And it continues. Are you actually saying that you are unaware that your speech is inflammatory? I am blocking you so that I'm not tempted to engage further.

[Discipline Before Dishonor]

4 minutes ago, dakko said:

And it continues. Are you actually saying that you are unaware that your speech is inflammatory? I am blocking you so that I'm not tempted to engage further.

God bless you, go find a juice box that you can drink in your safe space

[williams_482]

I would have expected someone who plays permadeath to be very careful about managing risky situations? You only get one chance, so you completely avoid dangerous situations when possible, or enter them deliberately only with careful preparation. Having watched the closing minutes of your video, that's not what happened here. I agree with the poster upthread who said this situation was completely avoidable. Attacking that bear the way you did seemed outright reckless. 

Bears are supposed to be things you avoid to the best of your ability. Running into one unexpectedly should be an "oh, SHIT" situation. They aren't unbeatable, but you need some combination of many ranged weapons, prepared traps, and considerable skill to take one on. I don't doubt that you are experienced with fighting animals in Vintage Story, but here you were overconfident about how much room you had to work with and got it slightly but fatally wrong. 

If you let that bear go about it's merry way, you would have been fine. If you gave it 15 blocks of space, threw one of those spears, and then ran to your prepared defenses: probably still fine. What you actually did? I'm sure sometimes, maybe even most of the time, it works out. But sometimes things don't go exactly as you expect, and then this happens. That's why it's important to give yourself a margin of error. 

Very few people are good enough at dealing with bears that they can win 100% of the time when out in the open equipped with two flint spears and a backpacked falx. I'm not totally certain anyone is, forum legend Thorfinn included. The fact that you aren't (yet?) at that that level is hardly a black mark against you, but it's not damnation on the game either. 

For what it's worth, I'm sympathetic to your complaints about temporal storms. Sympathetic enough that I just shut them off in my games, while you have apparently opted to install a mod that implements the behavior you want. That's great! Nothing wrong with that, nor with installing other mods to customize your experience to a level of difficulty that feels fair for a permadeath playstyle. What is wrong, is coming in here and making nasty comments about the developers, then lashing out at people here who didn't agree with you takes. 

[Zaldaryon]

Let's try to keep this constructive - I suggest to all the people in the subject to avoid personal attacks. Critics on the game is fine - on the game.

[Discipline Before Dishonor]

8 hours ago, williams_482 said:

I would have expected someone who plays permadeath to be very careful about managing risky situations? You only get one chance, so you completely avoid dangerous situations when possible, or enter them deliberately only with careful preparation. Having watched the closing minutes of your video, that's not what happened here. I agree with the poster upthread who said this situation was completely avoidable. Attacking that bear the way you did seemed outright reckless. 

Bears are supposed to be things you avoid to the best of your ability. Running into one unexpectedly should be an "oh, SHIT" situation. They aren't unbeatable, but you need some combination of many ranged weapons, prepared traps, and considerable skill to take one on. I don't doubt that you are experienced with fighting animals in Vintage Story, but here you were overconfident about how much room you had to work with and got it slightly but fatally wrong. 

If you let that bear go about it's merry way, you would have been fine. If you gave it 15 blocks of space, threw one of those spears, and then ran to your prepared defenses: probably still fine. What you actually did? I'm sure sometimes, maybe even most of the time, it works out. But sometimes things don't go exactly as you expect, and then this happens. That's why it's important to give yourself a margin of error. 

Very few people are good enough at dealing with bears that they can win 100% of the time when out in the open equipped with two flint spears and a backpacked falx. I'm not totally certain anyone is, forum legend Thorfinn included. The fact that you aren't (yet?) at that that level is hardly a black mark against you, but it's not damnation on the game either. 

For what it's worth, I'm sympathetic to your complaints about temporal storms. Sympathetic enough that I just shut them off in my games, while you have apparently opted to install a mod that implements the behavior you want. That's great! Nothing wrong with that, nor with installing other mods to customize your experience to a level of difficulty that feels fair for a permadeath playstyle. What is wrong, is coming in here and making nasty comments about the developers, then lashing out at people here who didn't agree with you takes. 

I can win 100% of the time against a black bear, I have a higher chance of dying while fighting a male deer. It's only brown bears that seem wildly inconsistent and broken. Last night in creative I managed to kill two brown bears with a flint spear by running backwards, hitting them twice to knock them back, then slightly rotating 30 degrees, doing that over and over again. But the third brown bear, with the darker fur color? Complete pattern break. Same strategy, same pattern, different result, killed me four times in a row, as though he was just faster than the other two brown bears, or had more reach, or something. Maybe it has to do with how combat is initiated, like maybe if I strike first then the animal's wandering speed gets added to its aggression speed in some sort of glitch, but if they aggress upon me unprovoked then they switch from their wandering speed to their aggression speed as intended, that's my only theory right now. But something caused the results to be different between brown bears, they may very well be spawning with different stats or some sort of speed spread, reach spread, or something else, whether intended or unintended. But my research results in creative could be easily replicated and I could produce video evidence.

Edited December 12, 2025 by Discipline Before Dishonor