Revert Chisel Requirements for Quern.

[Thorfinn]

1 hour ago, Facethief said:

No, you just need some vessel for water, but a bowl only holds one liter. You could use jugs if you feel the need, it’s just that they hold less water.

Isn't it one liter to one flour? Why couldn't you use bowls?

[Echo Weaver]

38 minutes ago, Thorfinn said:

Isn't it one liter to one flour? Why couldn't you use bowls?

I could visualize sitting by a water source and scooping a bowl of water for each unit of dough. Feels very early game.

[Facethief]

49 minutes ago, Thorfinn said:

Isn't it one liter to one flour? Why couldn't you use bowls?

It would be a pain, but nothing’s stopping you, I think.

[LadyWYT]

39 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

I could visualize sitting by a water source and scooping a bowl of water for each unit of dough. Feels very early game.

I'm pretty sure I've done this a few times, just because I wanted a few pieces of dough and was too lazy to bother with a bucket.

[Never Jhonsen]

3 hours ago, Echo Weaver said:

I could visualize sitting by a water source and scooping a bowl of water for each unit of dough. Feels very early game.

When 1.18 dropped, and I made a new world so I could play the Chapter 1 lore content, I quickly realized I missed my blueberry pies. This is how I solved that longing, scooping out pitiful amounts of lake water to mix with wild crop grain. I felt so smart too, thinking I was clever for finding out how to make pies pre-anvil, "I don't need planks for a bucket " Yeah well you do need planks for a table. Which the pie requires. 

[Echo Weaver]

2 hours ago, Never Jhonsen said:

When 1.18 dropped, and I made a new world so I could play the Chapter 1 lore content, I quickly realized I missed my blueberry pies. This is how I solved that longing, scooping out pitiful amounts of lake water to mix with wild crop grain. I felt so smart too, thinking I was clever for finding out how to make pies pre-anvil, "I don't need planks for a bucket " Yeah well you do need planks for a table. Which the pie requires. 

While I deeply sympathize with that pain, I'm curious -- were you combining water with grain, or had you made a quern to grind flour? Or was the quern introduced in 1.19?

[LadyWYT]

56 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

While I deeply sympathize with that pain, I'm curious -- were you combining water with grain, or had you made a quern to grind flour? Or was the quern introduced in 1.19?

The quern was definitely available in 1.19 and 1.18. I think the issue is he was after pies specifically, which require a table to make. But since he skipped the anvil, no saw for planks.

[Bumber]

On 7/15/2025 at 2:45 PM, LadyWYT said:

Unless I'm forgetting something, pies require a table in their crafting--ordinary blocks won't do. Tables require boards, which requires a saw, which needs to be smithed on the anvil.

You can find aged tables in ruins.

[Echo Weaver]

5 hours ago, Bumber said:

You can find aged tables in ruins.

They're decorative, though. You can't actually use them as a table.

[Never Jhonsen]

57 minutes ago, Echo Weaver said:

They're decorative, though. You can't actually use them as a table.

You used to; I remember having an aged table in a kitchen once. I haven't seen one ingame since like, 1.15, so it could have been changed.

8 hours ago, Echo Weaver said:

[...] had you made a quern to grind flour?

I did say "wild crop grain", but that was more for emphasis on the bare minimal I had going on Back in 1.18.0, I was able to make a pre-anvil quern to grind that grain into dough, as all you needed to craft a quern were sticks and relieved rock, which requires making a pick, which doesn't need an anvil to craft (only 20 copper nuggets and a clay mold (which only needs clay to craft, and a pit kiln to harden the clay (which uses sticks, dry grass, a burnable fuel source, and a way to light it (the most basic fire making method is a fire starter which only needs dry grass and sticks (dry grass can be gathered with a knife, which only needs knappable stones off the ground and a stick (sticks can be picked up off the ground)))))).

Nowadays, I make all my pies with fertilized terra pretta-grown grain, ground down smoothly and evenly on a windmill-powered quern, and a bucket (sterilized with aqua-vitae) filled with the finest tap water a home in the woods can have   I make the best damn pies in my world, guaranteed.

[Facethief]

honestly, there should be some way to make a simple mill multiblock with a stone and a natural rock surface, just so you can make small amounts of flour. Maybe the stone could be knapped into a pestle, and then you could ground store the grain and shift-use the pestle on it.

[Zane Mordien]

1 hour ago, Echo Weaver said:

They're decorative, though. You can't actually use them as a table.

That change made me sad. I used to love my aged tables that were functional. 

[Facethief]

1 hour ago, Zane Mordien said:

That change made me sad. I used to love my aged tables that were functional. 

Have you seen the top on that thing? Who knows how long that tablecloth’s been on there, man.