an_egg_cultist Posted October 17 Report Posted October 17 My grandfather grew blackberries. I remember every year going down to Texas, sweating buckets in the summer heat outside, helping pick them and grow them. All this to say I know damn well you can cut up nearly half those bushes and grow like ten new ones. For gameplay's sake, I understand you need to limit the amount of clippings you can take --- but once per year is absolutely horrid. There is no way you can get a reasonably sized amount of berry bushes growing if you can only take one measly clipping from each bush once per year. I welcome the new features to berry growing, as it was rather lackluster before, but the amount of clippings you can get needs to be adjusted.
Hanril Posted October 17 Report Posted October 17 It may or may not be a long time, but speaking from experience I feel like your reasonably sized amount is way too much. Unless you're traitmaxxing, you should be able to get enough cuttings in a single trip around green areas. I tried to collect 32 of each type of berry and most of it ended up as rot or alcohol.
LadyWYT Posted October 17 Report Posted October 17 Worth noting that the bush doesn't need to be fully mature in order for clippings to be taken from it. 8 hours ago, an_egg_cultist said: For gameplay's sake, I understand you need to limit the amount of clippings you can take --- but once per year is absolutely horrid. There is no way you can get a reasonably sized amount of berry bushes growing if you can only take one measly clipping from each bush once per year. I welcome the new features to berry growing, as it was rather lackluster before, but the amount of clippings you can get needs to be adjusted. What should it be adjusted to, in your opinion? Limiting clippings to one bush per year isn't particularly realistic(for some species, at least), however, when it comes to game balance it's not ideal to let the player find a single bush/couple of bushes and then propagate several clippings within a year strictly from those bushes. When it comes to current gameplay, it's not particularly tough to run around and get a good bunch of clippings from bushes with decent traits, and then have a whole berry patch ready for next year's harvest season, and that seems like a good balance to me. Especially if the general idea is that the player needs to invest some time and effort into cultivating a high quality berry patch. 2
Kiler_ Posted October 17 Report Posted October 17 My issue with berry bushes is if the clipping doesn't mature by winter it loses all of it's traits. I had quite a few good clippings planted later that by spring lost all of their traits, whether by design or a bug. It's not a huge loss since, aside from just having them grow, they don't add much other than another source of rot and making alcohol. 1
Moltrey Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 My guess is the current way they work is a game balance effort by Tyron, subject to change.
reg8 Posted Wednesday at 09:19 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:19 AM ...do some traits even matter.. at all? Will 15% yield make any numerical difference if the base yield on a healthy bush is 2-3 as with strawberries and cloudberries?
MKMoose Posted Wednesday at 10:31 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:31 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, reg8 said: ...do some traits even matter.. at all? Will 15% yield make any numerical difference if the base yield on a healthy bush is 2-3 as with strawberries and cloudberries? The quantity is rounded randomly depending on the fraction. The pseudocode for it would look like yield = floor(avgQuantity) + 1 if random() < (avgQuantity % 1) else 0. The small berries which have 2.75 average yield have a 25% chance to produce 2 berries and a 75% chance to produce 3 berries. Reducing it by 15% gives ~2.34 average yield, which means a ~66% chance to produce 2 berries and a ~34% chance to produce 3 berries. On 10/17/2026 at 6:38 PM, LadyWYT said: What should it be adjusted to, in your opinion? Limiting clippings to one bush per year isn't particularly realistic(for some species, at least), however, when it comes to game balance it's not ideal to let the player find a single bush/couple of bushes and then propagate several clippings within a year strictly from those bushes. Funny thing is, since you can get a new cutting from young bushes right as they grow from a cutting, you can actually still propagate them really quite quickly. Even starting from a single bush, you can get one new cutting every 3 months on average for the first year, then two every 3 months in the second year, then four and so on. On 10/17/2026 at 6:52 PM, Kiler_ said: My issue with berry bushes is if the clipping doesn't mature by winter it loses all of it's traits. I had quite a few good clippings planted later that by spring lost all of their traits, whether by design or a bug. That's a bug, #9943 on GitHub. If you're able to consistently make them lose traits, then having concrete reproduction steps would be useful. Edited Wednesday at 10:41 AM by MKMoose 1 1
Mark Watton Posted Wednesday at 04:00 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 04:00 PM (edited) Berry bushes can gain and lose traits depending on their nutrient levels, so if you're just dropping them on low quality soil and not fertilizing them, that's why they're losing positive traits. They're less maintenance than normal farming, but if you want a good harvest without planting a massive farm then it's very fertilizer intensive. Edited Wednesday at 04:02 PM by Mark Watton
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