SnapJelly

you keep focussing on the name... I keep telling you that no matter the name we would be able to look at the recipe and tell if something is a sandwich no matter what it's called. what's with this obsession over the name? the name is not important... wrong: the oldest surviving cookbook dates back to 1730bc, we have plenty of cookbooks from the medieval period and they included specifically what the poor people relied upon for survival, so quite literally what mundane combination of ingredients every day people ate. This is just proof you are agruing for something based on speculation, if you were actually interested in historical cooking you would know this, the sources are publically avaiable, you can just google them. correct, this is exactly what I said right here: So I am glad you confirm what I said without being aware of it this is personal opinion, you can not make this claim for other people playing this game. there is no need for petty insults, it only makes your claim look less valid. Well the exact same argument could be made in the opposide direction; why would you assume anything happened if there is absolutely 0 evidence for it? Just because it COULD HAVE been true? Based on what? Your own bias? That is ridiculous. You want history to be whatever you want it to be even if there is no evidence for it and just ignore the evidence we have based on what your desired outcome is and then insult people who point out the flaws in your logic? That's not a great argument man. I will repeat it once again, hopefully you'll get it this time: us not giving a name to a certain thing has no merrit on if it exists or not, however us not having a single indication or description or drawing or anything else of the sort indicating anything like it ever existed while after the ''invention'' of said thing suddenly sparks a HUGE influx if mentions of said thing should raise suspicion as to if if was actually done before the aforementioned ''invention''

oke well this is simply not true, have you read a cookbook from the past before? We have plenty of surviving ones from hundreds of years ago and they deal with both the preperation, presentation and sometimes even preferred method of eating. The only thing they don't really have is standardised measurements. Sure but it was an example to show the use of copper in game isn't a far fetched idea, lead ''realistically'' wouldn't work like the chutes do in game because it's too soft. It wasn't to point out there are no pipes in game, it was to point out copper has been used as a material to do the things they do in game for thousands of years, so it's not a modern invention as you claimed.

well we have plenty of recipes for things like oatmeal which is just boiling oats in water; they bothered writing that down. Also after the invention of the sandwich the recipes suddenly pop up so that would mean that at a random point in history people suddely decided sandwiches are worth writing about while previously they weren't. Meanwhile other even simpler meals were written about? This argumens doesn't hold up. Sure, but we could tell my the recipe if something would in modern times classify as a sandwich or not regardless of what it's called, the same way they would call what we would now call a pie; ''pudding'' We read the recipe and see that it's a pie... I agree that my example was outrageous for dramatic effect but the point remains the same, your claim that is ''would most likely be written down'' is based on nothing but assumption. And similarly if sandwiches were common practice we would find records of them, the same way we find records of other methods of eating bread. Well that's not quite true, while I know of no examples of chutes for item transport the exact same way as the game does we have found copper pipes for water transport in north afrika dating back to like 2000bc, the screw principle was invented around like 500bc No, pies do this. The method of preparing would even be the same, add ingredients and bake it. A single pie cuts into 4 slices the same way the oven holds 4 breads at once. So the difference would only be if you add the other ingredients before or after baking.

Yeah but something that was done historically not being added to the game yet is not at all comparable to something that wasn't done historically to be added to the game. Yeah but this is nothing but speculation, it's entirely withing the real of possibility that in ancient egypt it used to rain spaghetti but we have equal evidence for both: none. Completely ignoring the part where I said:

@MKMoose I honestly can not tell if you're on board or not because you frame the start of your post as if you are concerned it wouldn't work but then in the rest of your post a lot of the things you say are exactly what I suggested in my origional post? ''It wouldn't be a very early game mechanic because you would need a saw'' ''and of course the ice would slowly melt so it wouldn't last all year long'' ''in winter'' ''you would need a saw'' ''it would also add something for the player to do/look forward to in winter.'' ''to make your first spring fruits last juuuust a little longer'' ''to keep the temperature slightly lower aand increase the shelflife of foods slightly.'' ''the historical practice of sawing great big blocks of ice out of lakes in winter to keep their cellars more cold'' ''and of course the ice would slowly melt so it wouldn't last all year long''

No, there is no issues doing that.

Hello friends! Let me know what your go-to material is for lanterns and why! Early game I usually end up going for whatever I have on hand so usually copper, but later in game I usually go for meteoric iron kind of as a flex and because I don't use it for much else What about you guys?

Oh I love oni!! I should launch that game up again some day! Though I don't even think such complex temp exchange mechanics are required to make this work in the case of VS; the game already checks for rooms and ajusts the temprature accordingly in the case of a cellar or greenhouse, the same way this affects the spoil rates of your food it could also affect the hypothetical melting rates of iceblocks. I also wouldn't mind if the mechanic is limited for balancing reasons, for example ice only cooling down a room if it's placed on the floor and not it it's inside a container so you can't easily stack hundreds of blocks of ice for near infinite storage. And while we're speculating: I also just imagined I would totally vibe with something like a ''chilled drink'' bonus, make wine or beer be slightly better if it's cold instead of room temp.

Pot pie can be made with grain, meat and veggies and stacks in up to 32 which can each be divided by 4! Charred they will have less nutrition but will last for 12 days, great choice for a very filling ration!

And steam trains are not steam power technology that run on railtracks?

Steampower is on the roadmap!

oh oke, phew

Yeah that's a good point, I personally rarely bother making a good looking roof until I got some metal going mostly for this reason

THERE IS A FAILRATE?!?!

PT is the only one I have seen where I am 100% confident he uses nothing but the tools he makes himself, getting all that iron from that orange goop floating on the water is crazy meticulous work but the results are in my experience completely reasonable and honestly setting everything up to try and fake it for an amount so small would probably be more effort than actually harvesting the iron XD There's some other legit channels though but none that I have seen that make proper usable iron without any modern tools at all, save for PT but ya know, he isn't exactly mass producing iron bars either

Vintage story used to be my favorite game of all time, and it currently still is! ^^

I think a pickaxe and a hammer would be the most lucky you could be, but still a great find!

His iron making video is legit save for the fact that the bloom he creates would be too brittle for usable iron, that's why it cuts and he suddenly has properly hammered perfectly straight iron bars, he didn't fully process the bloom likely cuz it fell apart.

well the regulat crucible already holds 128 nuggets in each slot doesn't it? That'll be enough for 25 ingots in a single pour, and you can probably heat up a 2nd batch simply in the time it takes for them to cool off

I had a bug pop up recently where crafting recipes wouldn't show up, restarting the game fixed it might have been your case too

Yeah I guess it depends on how you define it, there is not all that much you truly ''unlock'' so to speak in lategame but I do find that the gameplay loop gradually changes as you progress and get better materials, so in a sense the late game content of VS is just a gameplay loop that has changed based on better tools available to you

I don't think peat is used tor fuel anymore, most peat bogs are protected areas now as far as I know That being said: If you guys are concerned with realism; peatfires are a serious concern that happen irl too

A month?! Like 9 ingame days?? I'd hardly call that short man

Yeah actually, I agree with this Panning should be more something you could do in an emergency or something if you can't find enough copper, or just just have something to do while you wait for other things. It shouldn't really be turned into a very valid way of getting materials and items.

I am personally not all that worried either but I don't think it is fair to say that people who are concerned are wrong for being so. I can see both sides of the coin, I don't think a dev should be crucified for mistakes made that can be corrected, even if the ''mistakes'' were malware. People can learn, repent, improve, move on. At the same time though it's fair for people to be concerned, if this turns out to be a behavior pattern that will repeat in the future it is better to get out then to stick around and find out if something like this will pop up again. Personally rn, I'm on the forgiving side. Give them a chance to make up/do better in the future. But if other people don't have that take that is completely valid.