TarantulaGod Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 (edited) PREFACE AS I HAVE DONE THE ADHD RAMBLING THING AGAIN: TANGENTS THAT AREN'T DIRECTLY RELEVANT ARE BANISHED TO THE FOOTNOTE WITH ||1|| AROUND THEM.||1|| So I've seen a couple people say that the 1-click install is unreliable, but after searching high and low I can't find a concrete answer to this, or even if it's still applicable. IIRC the closest thing I've seen ||2|| (other than a custom install path and/or more than one installation) was something to do with overwriting the zip files not being reliable, but as far as I've seen only mods with no version number in the zip file name get overwritten, and only 24 out of my 278 mods don't have a version number, of which only 3 have had an update ||3|| since I first downloaded them for this run. ||4|| So at least for me, it's shockingly easy to keep track of since I delete (or move) old versions of mods as I install their updates, so when I see a versionless troublemaker mod when I go to delete the old version, I just delete the mod and install its latest update. I mostly just want to know if the reason I've seen some people say "never do 1 click install" is actually relevant to how I do things, or if I can safely ignore that advice. ||5|| Also lmk if I need to add/remove tags, first forum post so I have no idea what the etiquette for tags is here Spoiler 1. Doing the footnote thing to reduce visual clutter of "big [donkey] wall of text", while still leaving those side tangents optionally readable, since I can't bring myself to remove them. Oh also I tend to edit things randomly as I go, add new paragraphs wherever I feel like, and generally write in a fashion best described as "Snails could type faster, wtf" and "Most people could ask that using 2 sentences max, wait why are you talking about burgers" so there might be an artifact of that somewhere. Or from the edits. That too. 2. (though I can't seem to find it again, ffs google isn't even a search engine anymore, if anyone has any good search engine recommendations please toss them my way, anyways tangent over) 3. (that wasn't a compat patch with a mod that I don't use, otherwise that'd make it 4) 4. I started rounding up mods for my current run a little over a month ago, and have been adding more here and there (some of them haven't been updated in more than a year, generally very tiny tweak mods that still work on 1.22) 5. And yes I did manually check each of my 278 mods to count how many of them didn't have version numbers, and then went and searched all 24 in the mod db to see if they had updated since I first downloaded them. I will put in an absurd amount of unnecessary work for the bit, and I will do so while asking if I can keep avoiding a comparably trivial amount of work. Because I think it's hilarious. *Insert the image of Goofy with "I'll [hyuckin'] do it again" meme here* Edited June 29 by TarantulaGod 1
LadyWYT Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Welcome to the forums! 40 minutes ago, TarantulaGod said: other than a custom install path and/or more than one installation My guess is that this is the usual reasoning behind such advice. The one-click install is convenient, but it defaults to the C drive(or whatever the default installation is for the OS in question). That means that if you installed the game somewhere else, or have multiple installations for some reason, the mod likely won't end up in the correct place if you use the one-click-install. 43 minutes ago, TarantulaGod said: only mods with no version number in the zip file name get overwritten As a general rule, you want to make sure that older versions of the mod are cleaned out of your folders, since leaving an older version in the folder can sometimes cause issues, especially in server mod folders. That, and deleting old mods will free up disk space. 44 minutes ago, TarantulaGod said: Also lmk if I need to add/remove tags, first forum post so I have no idea what the etiquette for tags is here Tags are just an option to make certain kinds of content easier to find, but there's no requirement to use them. Too many tags or irrelevant tags on a thread though can give the wrong impression. 49 minutes ago, TarantulaGod said: PREFACE AS I HAVE DONE THE ADHD RAMBLING THING AGAIN: TANGENTS THAT AREN'T DIRECTLY RELEVANT ARE WRITTEN IN WHITE TEXT WITH || 1. Hi! || AROUND THEM, HIGHLIGHT/SELECT TO READ. YOU HAVE BEEN INFORMED. I don't recommend doing this. It might be more convenient to write that way, but it's very difficult to both read and understand. That makes it easier for readers to get confused and miss what you're trying to say, or otherwise prompt them to ignore the post entirely. Posts that are easy to read or have well-organized thoughts tend to get more attention, while posts that are poorly formatted or have too many irrelevant tangents tend to get ignored. 1
TarantulaGod Posted June 29 Author Report Posted June 29 12 minutes ago, LadyWYT said: I don't recommend doing this. It might be more convenient to write that way, but it's very difficult to both read and understand. That makes it easier for readers to get confused and miss what you're trying to say, or otherwise prompt them to ignore the post entirely. Posts that are easy to read or have well-organized thoughts tend to get more attention, while posts that are poorly formatted or have too many irrelevant tangents tend to get ignored. Gotcha, will remove the colored text then. Would changing them to ||1|| and keeping the spoiler message below as a sort of footnote be alright? (I'll change it to that for now) And thanks for the response, maybe the people who advise against using the 1-click install lost their worlds because they didn't clear old versions and remember to make backups.
TarantulaGod Posted June 29 Author Report Posted June 29 I'll probably leave this open/not marked as solved for a couple days in case someone has more info? It doesn't quite feel right to mark it as solved yet, but I also don't know if leaving it indefinitely without marking a solution is chill or not.
LadyWYT Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 42 minutes ago, TarantulaGod said: Gotcha, will remove the colored text then. Would changing them to ||1|| and keeping the spoiler message below as a sort of footnote be alright? (I'll change it to that for now) It's much better than before, but still makes for a bit of a confusing read due to the formatting. I think it's due mainly to the numbers functioning similar to asterisks, and there being one about every other sentence. ||1|| could have been cut entirely, with the rest being carefully merged into their respective places in the paragraph as a whole and still have everything make sense, if a bit rambling. Basically, using wildly different text colors is distracting(lightly colored text also tends to be more difficult to read, unless the background is very dark), and providing too many footnotes can end up distracting a reader from what you're trying to say.
TarantulaGod Posted June 29 Author Report Posted June 29 I'll try to condense things more next time. I've been working on some of the over-explaining/perfectionism and tangenting, but I get worse about it when irl stuff is stressful. And when I decide to do dumb [excrement] like overthinking a forum post without eating anything after waking up at least 4 hours too early. So yeah note to self, that was not my brightest idea, maybe don't do that without snacks lol 1
Maelstrom Posted June 30 Report Posted June 30 Don't sweat the rambling. There's plenty of other posters that ramble making the rest of us innoculated to in post digressions. 1 1
TarantulaGod Posted 8 hours ago Author Report Posted 8 hours ago Alright, I'm gonna mark this as solved soon, since no additional info has been added. I'm not sure what the etiquette is for which message I mark as the solution, the first message with the solution or a message with a summarized version? The tldr is (unless there's more info missing) it's an issue if either: 1. you have a custom install path (iirc you can set it to download to your custom path, but it might not default to your custom path) 2. you don't delete old versions of mods that don't have a version number as part of the file name prior to downloading the updated version (or if you don't clean out old versions of mods in general, I remember something about unchecking mods being unreliable, but I haven't confirmed)
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