Bruno Willis

I think the issue is that I don't associate bee keeping with mining, but sometimes I have to go dig up a bunch of clay to make new skeps. It feels a bit odd. I would also like alternative, longer term options for bee keeping, or even to use excess wax instead of clay as an alternative recipe for the existing skeps.

I love just gradually adding useful things to my base as I focus on progression. A path here, a berry patch there... maybe I should smooth this bit into a terrace with these useless bits of dirt clogging my inventory. Before I know it I've got a functionally and attractive home that I never want to leave, when all I wanted was a stopping off point to get going with the copper age.

Compared to your spear, your club will feel useless, but don't let anyone tell you shields are bad. They're the best. They don't slow you down, they don't cost much metal, and they can save your life when ranged foes show up.

If only forest had some way of regenerating naturally

From the brief glance I've had, Hytale seems to be able to produce quite large underground structures, which I believe are in the plan for vintage story? The Hytale ones seem to have some issues blending with natural generation, but the design principles are really cool: narrow ledges generating to cross gaps, natural and unnatural bridges, etc. They seem to have put more thought into what it would feel like to move through their underground spaces than V.S. has? Probably they're interested in making underground spaces which are deliberate, fun to explore spaces, where V.S. is aiming for realistic, risky to explore spaces. In that case I'd like to see V.S. leaning more into cave generation which matches real world caves: more narrow cuts and low roofed, angled passages that follow the geological layers, sinkholes with water at the bottom of them. I think giving caves a re-vamp that says either "these are fun to explore but unrealistic", or "these are risky and realistic and not meant for people" would really help V.S. The current caves still have some The Other Block Game vibes, and feel like placeholders to me. For V.S. I'd borrow the idea of ledges: could we have a sort of stone ledge (essentially a chiseled stone) which generates in ridges occasionally, in the same way cracked stone generates, but only on exposed stone. That way you'd occasionally get narrow ways to edge around a sinkhole to get to the cave on the other side. It'd also add just a little bit more detail to cliff walls, and could be a great place for sea-birds to perch... I also liked the look of being able to grab onto the top of a two high wall and pull yourself up. That could be a nice addition for V.S. (Although I carry rope ladders everywhere for this purpose, and that's a fun gameplay mechanic too) Hytale's birds looked good for Hytale, very cartoony and cute, and do not look like the sorts of birds V.S. should have. I image birds for V.S. would either be unobtrusive particle-like gatherings which make nice bird sounds, or be deliberate, fast creatures which have nests and sources of food, and swoop between them, or wheel way above in the sky. And really, both methods would be good for V.S. the first for small birds and song birds, and the second for large and hunting birds.

Welcome to the forums! I get it, I've been subsisting almost entirely on mushroom stew in my current colder start playthrough, and it can get desperate when you don't have compatible numbers of mushrooms. I think the current slot system is good and simple, but I way I could see to implement this would be "dicing." Basically, you put all your different mushrooms in the crafting grid with a knife and get "diced mushroom" which can be used as generic mushroom which stacks. Same with other vegies. (Double points if you could put the mushrooms on a flat surface together and then right click them with a knife to dice them). Diced mushrooms and vegies would have a much faster spoil rate. Mashed fruit could work in the same way. It would be nice to use those last few scraps in a decent meal.

Sticky dirt mod + turning on soil sideways instability! it makes the game feel so much more realistic and risky, but the mountains don't just collapse everywhere. Can't play without it.

This would make bees less effective and more interesting to keep, as well as making the world feel more alive. I like it.

I would love to see storms in the oceans as a unique challenge with its own mechanics: I.e. actually being lifted up and dumped down by big waves, boats filling with water, lightening shattering masts occasionally, and the possibility of being dashed against rocks. I don't know how this could be done, as it seems like it would require a different system from what is currently used to program waves, and it would require ships to have 'health' and need repairs, which might be more trouble than it's worth. Still, ocean navigation needs more excitement and challenge.

This is really interesting as well because taming a single wolf could happen relatively early in your game - an early intro into animal husbandry, where domesticating takes many generations. I love the idea that a tame animal is still a dangerous one if not fed regularly. That fits right in with how scary semi-domesticated big horns are, and makes the idea of keeping wolves so much more exciting. They're still wolves, they should still be scary! It'd also be really neat to see your crazy friend taming wolves and always stressing about providing enough meat for them, and getting devoured every now and then, until one day they've domesticated the wolves enough, and they've got lovely loyal dogs.

This is a perfect example of why it would be worth re-visiting the claim system, to me. Actions like lighting a torch can become huge puzzles in claimed territory, when they really shouldn't be. I think it would be a good idea if the devs tried to make claimed areas a bit less restrictive as early as possible, because it has such an impact on future area design, whether they decide it has to stay as is, or if it changes. I feel like playing in claimed areas is a different game with different rules to the rest of gameplay - a fun game, but a different one. My concern is that this issue gets forgotten because you can get used to it, learn the rules of how to function in claimed areas, and it no-longer feels like an issue. The thing is, it can be really off-putting to new players, and still makes gameplay less immersive for everyone, even if you've gotten used to it. This'd be a lovely little fix. I feel like V.S. does a great job at saying "yes that'll work" when you try something that seems logical but sort of niche.

This would work really well for ordinary storms rather than temporal storms. In real life stones slowly work their way out of the ground in pastures, and farmers have to continually gather them up and build walls with them or get rid of them somehow. A storm could wash some of the soil away, bringing up new stones. It could also knock dead branches down from the trees, refreshing the sticks on the ground in forests. I would love it if collecting fallen wood was a legitimate long term strategy. Ordinary storms are a great opportunity to refresh the landscape. For temporal storms, I could imagine rusty spikes and things spawning temporarily on the ground, as well as loose rusty gears rarely? Then they'd fade out in the same way the last few rust foes do at the end of the storm.

While I'm hearing the reasons against these ideas, and I get those reasons, I like that you're looking for non-combat game loops which might put people at risk, exploring the storms and experiencing them, not just hiding or fighting. Having a non-combat reason to expose yourself to the temporal storms would make them so much more fun for me. I've set up a drifter trap in one world, but I set it out quite a way from any of my other structures. I really enjoyed sprinting for the shelter, but the killing and looting afterwards felt cheesy and not fun. I love the idea of weird time things happening which you can exploit if you can survive out in the storm long enough (unlike the less hardy humans). I had the same initial thought as riotmode about ruins becoming whole during temporal storms, and seeing it come up again makes me feel there is something in that idea. I know there are story events which play with this concept really well, but I don't think that's a reason not to implement something like it in normal storms. I think it'd be different enough if ruins occasionally flickered into either their rust-world equivalent or their unbroken original forms, and stayed that way for the duration of the storm. Perhaps it would only happen to some ruins, and never to a ruin you're currently very close to. I also really like the idea of paradox exploitation causing issues too. This is another cool reason to experience the storms instead of just combat. I've proposed neutral rust beasts before, as a different reason to go out into the storms. I like the thought of seeing some strange beings moving across the twisting landscape in the middle distance, and being stupid enough to run over and interact with them. What they'd be, and what they'd do, I'm less sure... On a different note, I'd like to see the storms get a bit more of a folk-horror element to line up with the lore: baby animals born during the storm come out as rust-warped monstrosities (that'd be pretty rare, I'd guess). Stored food would appear to be entirely rotten, and taste like it too during the storm, but then revert back afterwards. Wild animals and traders should hunker down and hide, to show you that you would too if you were wise. For sure. But the storms are cool and it'd be good to have a real reason to experience them which isn't combat. The other side to that would also be the much recommended change where rust-foes don't spawn right inside your house, so you have a reason to use high walls, close the storm shutters and bar your doors. If the negative effects were more interestingly implemented, I think we could get away with a couple of niche positive effects that only a foolhardy seraph would even consider exploiting.

This would be a great direction to go: it'd give all classes stronger identity, make clothing so much more interesting (than any game I've played, come to think of it), and make tailors the go-to trader, which seems fitting. Imagine how fun it'd be as a malefactor if the traders just straight up refuse to show their wares, until you can loot some less dodgy clothes, or how fun it'd be as a tailor if everyone's fawning over your perfect condition noble robes.

I think this is a good point: the game doesn't feel very uncompromising when it comes to weather exposure, which makes clothing less impactful than it is in reality. I think giving textile production and weaving the complexity it deserves could also help the tailor. Perhaps also being able to add pockets to clothing would help give them more of an identity? Extra slots of storage stitched into the lining of their clothes.

I'm glad the forums help. This is such an interesting game, with a really good following. I find it is always worth sticking with you goal just a bit longer, and if that doesn't work, switching tasks instead of quitting the game. VS. doesn't give you guaranteed dopamine hits, but it slowly rewards all the struggles as long as you keep struggling and keep noting things down. Take nothing for granted and good luck!

I feel like increasing the number of fish in pools would require the pools to feel more like viable habitats. I'd like the devs to add tangles of deadwood in the edges of pools, and overhangs (even if only visual) to the shore blocks, basically adding places where fish might hide. Personally I'm not keen on rod fishing of any sort being added to VS. It feels like a modern fishing system, when VS feels more in line with pre-industrial tech. Spear fishing, noodling, fish traps, crayfish pots, and nets over the sides of fishing boats, are my preferred fishing mechanics. I see rod fishing as just chasing what other games do instead of following VS's unique flavor.

I'd love to see conflict with humans which doesn't result in their death, for once. What if you 'killed' a bandit, and the rest sue for peace and heal their downed companion. You'd be able to run them off that way, without killing them. Have a re-occurring group of enemies that you can get to know and learn how to fight. Imagine making a deal to go one v one with them, and if you win they've got to leave, and then wondering which of the bandits they'll choose. The big armored lady, or the punk with the recurve bow and daggers... You could also use them for quest moments. If the villagers heard of an approaching threat, they might ask you to find the bandits and offer them a deal to get them to help defend the village. The bandits could remain an issue after that, but a human issue. The cool thing about human foes is that you can fight them, defeat them, and not involve killing them. Even if they 'kill' you, they could have a unique mechanic where they just rob you blind and heal you up, then tell you to run off into the wild... that's almost a death sentence, but it's also a really fun situation. You'd hate them so much.

This is something which I think would fit right into vintage story. I personally would love to see pulley systems implemented and utilized. Imagine unloading your sailing boat using a crane to haul crates of stone off it and into your workshop area! Or building a pully system to raise a platform from the ocean up to the top of your cliffside hideaway. I don't know exactly how it could be implemented, but it seems like no other game does pullies and ropes, and they're such an powerful tool with really interesting visuals. Perhaps you'd construct pully blocks, attach them to blocks you want to move (chests, crates, etc.) and to support beams. The number of pullies would determine the weight it could pull (2 pullies to lift a crate, 4 pullies doubled up to lift a crate stuffed with stones or a trunck, etc.) but would slow the lifting time down. The distance between pullies would determine the amount of rope you'd need, and the distance you'd need to walk while hauling on the rope. Alternatively, you might make a winch to roll the rope up tidily and easily. Unfortunately, the way weight and inventory works right now sort of negates the purpose of a pully system. If you can haul a house-worth of logs in your linen sacks without breaking a sweat, why use a crane? I'd prefer it if cranes and pullies were necessary, and were in the game.

I found winter boring, until I decided to chisel and make some slight improvements to the house. Then winter just flew by. I think it's a good time to get bored and then find something you wouldn't usually do, and do that.

Yes, in my case all the map data is intact. I love how straightforward this game is (as well as beautiful). On second checking, the waypoints are still there, but not the exploration - sounds like it is the same issue you had. Bummer. Luckily I hadn't done much long distance travel yet on that world.

Update: The tin-bronze scythe I was in the process of forging has transformed into a silver scythe on my new laptop. Weird. Can't complain though.

Welcome to the forums. I have also got a favorite world saved on a less than ideal computer. I'm going to have a go at moving the save file from one computer to the other, and I'll update you with how I go. Update: Yes, it's really easy. I just grabbed the file in my game saves and copied it onto a memory stick, then moved it over onto my new laptop, jumped on, and immediately died in a temporal storm. Beautiful. I haven't found any odd issues with the world so far. Maybe you'd want to back up a world before doing this... I don't know. Caution is always an option I guess. Best of luck

This mod looks like it is getting at some of these suggestions, https://mods.vintagestory.at/novelty as with this one: https://mods.vintagestory.at/show/mod/10769, I think there are plenty of people who would really like a more complex and rewarding nutrition system implemented, and I don't think it'd be that troubling for people who don't care about it either.

I like the idea of a slowed down, some what musical grumbling stomach sound, which gets more and more obvious as time goes on.