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That does seem a more likely explanation. The lowest spoilage zone is the wall opposite the door, and the structure is above ground.
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I have a cellar where milk spoils slightly faster in one corner and slightly slower in the opposite corner. The only plausible explanation I can come up with is that one corner of the room is in a slightly cooler region than the other.
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The issue with permanent surface instability
williams_482 replied to A_British_Lass's topic in Discussion
I think a lot of this is good, but this one I'm not thrilled about. If new players getting burned setting up bases in nice looking unstable areas (or more experienced players realizing they shouldn't set up in those places) is a problem, players discovering that their base has randomly become an unstable zone for some unknown amount of time is going to be even worse. I'm also not huge on removing the indicator from the UI. Admittedly I play with the HUD mod that literally shows you the stability percentage at your current location, which is maybe too much information, but it is a huge help to be able to see at a glance it I'm in a good, okay, or bad place to recover stability. I could get roughly the same information from the gear, I'd just have to look at it longer. Recently I went mining for Casserite in an unstable area some distance from my base, and had to emerge from my mineshaft on a regular basis and run off to a stable area to recover stability. The difference in recovery time waiting in an area with 105% stability vs a full 150% stability is substantial, never mind the difficulty of trying to recover in an almost-but-not-quite stable region. This sort of rough categorization (very stable vs barely stable vs barely not stable) would be much harder to convey via environmental clues, and that in turn just forces you to wait around for longer in the middle of nowhere on mining expeditions. -
In my first world after purchasing the game, generated in 1.20, I spawned in a small grassland flanked by two tall plateaus. I had hunted seemingly every nearby wild animal to extinction in my first year, and now was franticly trying to find pigs and sheep to capture and domesticate. Eventually a solitary ram spawned which I (at great personal cost) lured into a pen, but finding a ewe proved more difficult. I decided to give the plateaus another look. After climbing to the top of one of them and wandering around the circumference looking for animals stuck on small ledges, I was in luck! there was a bighorn lamb (sex unknowable from range) trapped on a two block outcropping against the side of a sheer cliff. Being unfamiliar with the intricacies of animal behavior, I figured I should be able to work my way over to a nearby ledge, build it an escape route to ground level, and herd it into my pen from there. But once the lamb noticed me climbing towards it, it panicked and took the only possible action to escape. I watched as this lamb launch itself into open air 50 blocks above ground level, then in mid flight mature into an adult ram before crashing to it's death on the ground below. Free extra meat, I guess. I'll take it.
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Constructive thoughts for the Elk
williams_482 replied to Discipline Before Dishonor's topic in Suggestions
The bone flute essentially already does this, teleportation and all. It has a range limit, but it's pretty far; if you give it a toot every minute or so while sprinting through the undergrowth your elk will keep up with you well enough. -
So this incredibly rare item cannot be picked up once placed? That's really unfortunate.
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So I Tried to go Caving in 1.21.6
williams_482 replied to Discipline Before Dishonor's topic in Discussion
Regarding bells, I won't say I'm super experienced in cave fighting and I definitely don't play on wilderness survival, but I've had some luck using this approach against bells who spawn in largeish caves: 0. Build some kind of safe room or prepared defense, out of the bell's alert radius. Could be as simple as a small two block high wall of fences or dirt blocks with a narrow entrance to block off shivers and limit how many enemies can get to you at once. 1. charge the bell with a stack of torches and place a few of them as fast as possible, then turn and run away. 2. Once you've run far enough that the bell isn't ringing, turn and deal with whatever monsters are chasing you. 3. Once melee enemies are dealt with, shoot the nicely illuminated bell with arrows from outside it's agro range until it dies. If there are Bowtorn around it you can kill them first, as the bell can't spawn more until you get closer. -
Two in-game months is only 18 days on default settings, and they gestate for 25 days (give or take). Give them another month and you'll have piglets.
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Help needed with unscheduled temporal storms
williams_482 replied to V Warfield's topic in Questions
I'll note that if rifts are set to invisible, they won't drain your stability even if you're standing right in one. I see in the chat log that you had an extended grace period before monsters start to appear. Perhaps that's causing a weird interaction with rifts and/or the low temporal stability punishments? -
This is a bit of a digression, but even an "underpowered" primitive firearm was pretty near unrivaled in it's time for pure killing power if it managed to hit somebody. Most people have an exaggerated sense of how lethal and unstoppable arrows are from movies (which themselves are mostly porting tropes of gunpowder warfare to more primitive tech), which makes it harder to understand why anyone would bother with the oldest, clumsiest, hardest to use personal firearms. It definitely wasn't ease of use for minimally trained and disposable soldiers: crossbows were cheaper to build, easier to use, and much more reliable. That's assuming you needed ranged troops, and thus didn't want to turn to the old standby of giving them a twenty foot long pointed stick and training them to move in formation with it. A great archer can shoot a lot faster than that musketman, and under certain conditions might be more accurate, but his effectiveness and that of his fellows is coming from volume. Arrows could, did, and still can kill people, but against armored soldiers any given arrow was much more likely to go glancing harmlessly off a piece of steel plate. Those that did bite flesh were much more likely to do superficial damage than to disable or kill. The lethal effect of English longbowmen at battles like Agincourt was because they put so many arrows on their targets, from many different angles, that many lucky hits were inevitably scored through small cracks in armor. And putting that many arrows on target required time, which required some combination of clever planning and favorable battlefield circumstances. Some historians have argued that in most cases the value of archers on a battlefield was psychological: a sustained bombardment of projectiles which mostly don't hit anything, and when they do mostly don't hurt, and when they do mostly don't do real damage, and when they do mostly don't kill, is still a painful, miserable, and deeply unnerving experience. In a battlefield situation where everybody is under tremendous strain and yet sill required to keep firm and follow orders, that sort of psychological effect can easily be decisive. No, the reason you bother arming your troops with clumsy, heavy, slow-firing, not very accurate, weather-affected, occasionally explosive matchlock arquebuses is that they're incredibly good at punching through nearly any practical personal protection and delivering an incapacitating blow. Steel plates which will reliably stop an arrow can be punctured by an arquebus, and things like mail or a heavy quilted shirt which offered very meaningful protection against muscle powered weapons were totally useless against them. For a bonus, they replace the arrow swarm's slow, grinding psychological impact with something much simpler: these things are very loud and make scary clouds of smoke and if one does happen hit you, you're probably dead no matter what you're wearing or doing. If Vintage story were to add firearms, they should be expensive. They should be complicated to use. They should be slow to reload, and they at the very least shouldn't be much more accurate than bows and spears (although they should be easier to aim, because the projectiles will travel so much faster and drop is less relevant). But they should also do a whole shitload of damage if they do manage to hit a target.
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It would be nice if smithing, clayforming, and potentially other in-world crafting systems had a "freeform" output option. The player could select this option and place/move voxels however they pleased without a guide, adding and expending material as normal, until the player decides they are done and can pick up a "finished", non-functional item of their desired shape. The purpose here is to allow an alternative to chiseling to create small freeform objects out of materials that are either not easily chiselable (clay) or very expensive and inefficient (metal blocks). For example, if I wanted to create a small figurine out of meteoric iron, I could craft a full block out of plates and then chisel that down, or I could place two hot ingots on an anvil and shape from there. Note that while this is possible by picking some other smithing output and ignoring the voxel placement indicators, those indicators are somewhat annoying while shaping the object, and the "finished" object will always appear as an incomplete knife or whatever in the inventory. For freeform clay, construction would still be layer by layer, with the player having to "lock" each layer before starting the next one, and then finally locking the final form before firing. Coloration post-firing would be very basic, matching the base color for a brick of the same clay type and firing conditions. For both clay and metal, the final product would be very slightly smaller (5-10%) but proportionally identical to the set of voxels which were just formed, mirroring the subtle shrinkage when a normal crafted item is completed and switches to it's standard texture. These finished freeform items would behave differently based on their size: if the item is less than or equal to eight voxels in both length and width, it is treated as a small ground-placeable item (like a bowl or crock), if larger than 8x8 then it is treated like a full block item (like a watering can or a vessel). This would be a purely cosmetic addition, with no practical benefit except some minor material savings. Nothing crafted freeform would be able to store fluid or items, hit for any extra damage, or have other characteristics that would have to be carefully balanced. They would simply exist, and (hopefully) look nice.
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The patch notes for 1.21 said they had fixed the issues with animals phasing through blocks when the player is far enough away to unload their chunks. I'd say your testing confirms that they succeeded.
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As someone who currently just shuts the storms off, I agree with this. There are several things that would make storms a significantly more tolerable inconvenience, one that I would consider leaving on even without some extra rewards: - They should be predictable several days in advance. Not with perfect precision, but our seraphs should know (and be shown) the same information that we players could derive from knowing the temporal storm cadence set for the world. I want to be able to know, for example, how risky it would be to set out on a multi-day trip now vs staying home until right after the next storm. - It should be possible to do normal indoor things in a smallish home during a temporal storm without being jumped by something that spawned in right behind you. No monsters spawning within (for example) ten blocks of the player would mean that a typical room is always safe to do panning, smithing, cooking, etc. You can then experience the atmosphere and suffer the inconvenience of the storm while doing things you probably would have done some time soon anyway. - Temporal storm monsters should scale with player progression somehow, perhaps with story progression benchmarks. The fact that a light temporal storm will still spawn large numbers of monsters strong enough that a typical player would struggle to 1v1 them with a flint spear is fairly absurd. The downside here is that the double headed drifter's drops are the one real reward for fighting through a temporal storm right now, and I don't think that should be locked behind a trip to the second story location.
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Several questions here. Spoilers below. You've been warned.
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v1.21.6-rc.1 Story Chapter 2 Redux, Maintenance patch #2
williams_482 replied to Tyron's topic in News
I have two armor stands that have been in my home for several updates, placed centered on their blocks. I recently picked up an aged armor stand, and was delighted to find that it would place on an edge instead of in the center of a block, allowing me to place it in front of the other two armor stands in a triangular formation such that all three were visible from the front. I assumed (for lack of other explanations) that this was a deliberate behavior, special to the aged armor stands to allow precisely that sort of staggered placement, and was grateful for it. I now know thanks to this comment that the behavior I saw is a bug which currently applies to all armor stands. Oops. If/when that bug is fixed, I hope some way of placing armor stands on block edges or block centers is retained. The thing I mistakenly thought was happening, where regular armor stands are placed on the block center but aged armor stands are placed on the edge, wouldn't be the worst way to do it. -
Brown Bears need a speed nerf badly
williams_482 replied to Discipline Before Dishonor's topic in Discussion
I would have expected someone who plays permadeath to be very careful about managing risky situations? You only get one chance, so you completely avoid dangerous situations when possible, or enter them deliberately only with careful preparation. Having watched the closing minutes of your video, that's not what happened here. I agree with the poster upthread who said this situation was completely avoidable. Attacking that bear the way you did seemed outright reckless. Bears are supposed to be things you avoid to the best of your ability. Running into one unexpectedly should be an "oh, SHIT" situation. They aren't unbeatable, but you need some combination of many ranged weapons, prepared traps, and considerable skill to take one on. I don't doubt that you are experienced with fighting animals in Vintage Story, but here you were overconfident about how much room you had to work with and got it slightly but fatally wrong. If you let that bear go about it's merry way, you would have been fine. If you gave it 15 blocks of space, threw one of those spears, and then ran to your prepared defenses: probably still fine. What you actually did? I'm sure sometimes, maybe even most of the time, it works out. But sometimes things don't go exactly as you expect, and then this happens. That's why it's important to give yourself a margin of error. Very few people are good enough at dealing with bears that they can win 100% of the time when out in the open equipped with two flint spears and a backpacked falx. I'm not totally certain anyone is, forum legend Thorfinn included. The fact that you aren't (yet?) at that that level is hardly a black mark against you, but it's not damnation on the game either. For what it's worth, I'm sympathetic to your complaints about temporal storms. Sympathetic enough that I just shut them off in my games, while you have apparently opted to install a mod that implements the behavior you want. That's great! Nothing wrong with that, nor with installing other mods to customize your experience to a level of difficulty that feels fair for a permadeath playstyle. What is wrong, is coming in here and making nasty comments about the developers, then lashing out at people here who didn't agree with you takes. -
Good notes about the bear armor. Seems like an intentional choice to make the more difficult to kill bears give more useful armors. As for Panda/Sun bears, they seem to behave identically towards the player. They'll run away if you get close to them, but usually turn aggressive if attacked. They are also both capable of the same indiscriminate "rampage mode" as other bear types, where they run around killing whatever they can find (including you).
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Is it actually possible to make the iron anvil with only 10 ingots?
williams_482 replied to Vexxvididu's topic in Questions
Both anvil parts do require five ingots, but it's quite easy to waste voxels by stacking new ingots beyond the maximum height of the work piece. Add one ingot at a time only after the previous ingot is spent, completely filling out each layer from the bottom up. And definitely don't destroy any voxels until everything else is done. The anvil bottom requires slightly less than five ingots worth of voxels, and is relatively easy to complete with just the five. The anvil top, meanwhile, requires exactly as many voxels as five ingots will give you, so you have zero room for error. I often get this slightly wrong and have to use six ingots. There's a detailed set of instructions in the wiki which I found to be quite helpful. -
v1.21.6-rc.1 Story Chapter 2 Redux, Maintenance patch #2
williams_482 replied to Tyron's topic in News
Ideally they would only produce the particles when not yet interacted with. -
Are there any parts of the story that intrude on regular gameplay if you don't go out looking for them?
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I did ultimately return to the archive and pick up a slew of missing lore books, including the conclusion to "The Spy and the Sparrow". Most of these were found after combing through the library shelves, but I also went through the rest of the archive chambers looking for lore books in back rooms I hadn't noticed on my first pass, and I believe I found at least one of my missing books there. I imagine the new particles for selectable books would have made this much easier than it was on 1.20, but that won't help for books stashed in ruined chests in the corner of some secret bedchamber. If you can't find the last book in the library, it's probably tucked away somewhere else in the structure and you'll have to dig around for it. Here is my updated and complete list of RA-exclusive books: - The Weight of Stone: nine sections, eighteen pages - Admirer of the Miller: ten sections, twenty two pages - The Patronage of Tibalt Amaro: five sections, ten pages - The Spy and the Sparrow: ten sections, seventeen pages
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I just tumbled into this one, and it turns out you can just break the barrel to get your salt back.
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I don't think it does, and although I am just one person I would definitely not like to see the actions being removed from direct environmental interaction (think smithing, or turning a quern) and have that moved to a "mini-game". IMO, it's really important for the game to remain consistent, not just for the new users but for the rest of us. I've never played the game in question so I'm not sure what kind of gameplay the shown "minigame" is diverging from, but everything shown in that video (read a recipe from a book, pour a base liquid into a cauldron, put it over the fire, put an herb in and boil for a bit, grind another herb and add it, pour the contents into a bottle - all by manipulating object in a room) is in line with the kinds of direct environmental interactions that you describe. I'd expect a potion brewing mechanic in Vintage Story to function similarly.
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worldgen Regarding rivers and world generation.
williams_482 replied to Alonso7's topic in Suggestions
Assuming a square map, it's shaped like a donut where the diameter of the vertical cross section of the donut ring is the same as the diameter of the donut itself, and the circumference around the outside of the donut is the same as the circumference of the hole in the middle. That's not like any donut I've ever eaten. -
worldgen Regarding rivers and world generation.
williams_482 replied to Alonso7's topic in Suggestions
If any limitations were placed on the distance the map will render (which seems pointless, I suspect it works that way because it's easier to continue infinitely in whatever direction than to find a natural seeming way to establish world borders), then they should stitch the world boundaries together to implement a rudimentary bi-directional world wrap. Civilization 4 had a world wrap option they called "toroidal", where both the north/south and east/west boundaries of a rectangular map of grid squares would connect to each other, allowing you to walk around the "globe" in any direction. The actual zoomed-out shape of the resulting planet is physically impossible and difficult to visualize, but that's not noticeable from the ground, and certainly not at Vintage Story's first person scale. I think it would be really cool to simulate a globe like this, allowing people to journey south 400km and find themselves back at their base. It also shouldn't be too difficult technically, with the biggest problem likely to be figuring out how to make the map boundary terrain look seamless.