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I know I can craft fireclay.. ..but after 70 hours of play I haven't seen any natural fireclay blocks (but lots of red clay)! Am I the only one? Did I search wrong? Is it very rare?

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It does exist, but the spawn parameters have changed. It now only occurs naturally under black coal and anthracite deposits, and apparently has a chance to spawn in bauxite biomes as well(though in small, rare patches in this case).

Crafting it from other clay and flint is probably going to be the most expedient way to acquire fire clay, in most cases.

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2 hours ago, gomodo said:

I know I can craft fireclay.. ..but after 70 hours of play I haven't seen any natural fireclay blocks (but lots of red clay)! Am I the only one? Did I search wrong? Is it very rare?

I found many of fireclay close to black coal. Frome one i dag over 10 stacks of fireclay - but from another just stack and half.. Its a various.

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On 1/7/2025 at 5:26 PM, LadyWYT said:

It does exist, but the spawn parameters have changed. It now only occurs naturally under black coal and anthracite deposits, and apparently has a chance to spawn in bauxite biomes as well(though in small, rare patches in this case).

Crafting it from other clay and flint is probably going to be the most expedient way to acquire fire clay, in most cases.

Wait you can craft Fireclay? How :o?

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10 minutes ago, BauNik said:

Wait you can craft Fireclay? How :o?

You need to bake flint into calcined flint chunks, then grind that into powder with a quern. Mix the calcined flint powder with blue or red clay to produce fire clay.

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9 minutes ago, LadyWYT said:

You need to bake flint into calcined flint chunks, then grind that into powder with a quern. Mix the calcined flint powder with blue or red clay to produce fire clay.

Thank you so much <3!

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2 hours ago, ericsparrow22 said:

So does fire clay not spawn under brown coal as well?

Welcome to the forums! To my knowledge, it's only black coal and anthracite. But it never hurts to check brown coal. Worst case scenario, you'll find no fire clay, but have a lot of brown coal at your disposal for all your smithing needs.

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Thank you, happy to be here!

 

I checked for a little while, got a few stacks of brown coal out of it, but no fireclay, I've walked about 10k blocks west of spawn and have yet to find any bauxite. No orange on the map whatsoever besides some flowers/bushes. Inventory is way full so gonna drop stuff off at base and head east next. Hoping for some luck lol

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dont know so much about using flint for the recipe for fire clay tbh. its allready at a premium as it is, and I always prioritised using flint over other knappable stones for stone tools in the beginning till I can get to the bronze age.

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52 minutes ago, Dilan Rona said:

dont know so much about using flint for the recipe for fire clay tbh.

Truth, at least in a long-running MP. Personally, it doesn't bother me much one way or the other. Spear aside, so far as I know, most tools made of other knappables differ only in durability. And, yeah, arrowheads are flint-only. (Or maybe also chert and obsidian, dunno.) Pretty sure it's the same as any other quartz material, though, so maybe expanding the possible materials to calcined quartz and calcined chert would fix it. 

In any event, a world a million by a million has a lot of flint.

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4 minutes ago, Thorfinn said:

Pretty sure it's the same as any other quartz material, though, so maybe expanding the possible materials to calcined quartz and calcined chert would fix it. 

Flint is a kind of chert, and both are indeed almost entirely quartz, so it would make perfect sense and ease the burden on flint in-game.

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I got lucky and found quite a bit of obsidian so switched to using that instead of flint, but I'm still aiming to find a Bauxite area to gather fireclay in lieu of crafting it, it's a bit discouraging though, I've travelled 10k blocks in 2 separate directions and still no bauxite. At least finding and exploring ruins along the way has been fun

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I don't get why everyone is so upset about flint.  In my first playthrough of 1.20 I gathered over 6 stacks of flint just running around for resources during the first month of play.  Also cooking it wasn't bad using brown coal.  Might be a bit frustrating if using charcoal.  But given how much fire clay you get from a stack of flaxed flint, I seems pretty balanced to other resources in VS.

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I recently found a fire clay deposit in a bauxite desert. They are definitely rare. But once you find one you will have plenty for a while.

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On 1/31/2025 at 2:31 PM, Maelstrom said:

Also cooking it wasn't bad using brown coal.  Might be a bit frustrating if using charcoal.

The other day when I was first using bloomeries I saw as I hovered over one that you can bake the flint in there too! I was usually just cooking the flint in a cooking pot and wonder if cooking in a bloomery is more efficient for coal/charcoal. But also uses fire bricks that you are trying to make in the first place.

Edit: I just checked and you can do max 6 flint for 6 charcoal/fuel per bloomery, doesn't seem worth it.

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6 charcoal for 6 flint?  Definitely not worth it.  I'm not sure but 48 brown coal to heat 64 flint, I think?  Might be 32, but could be closer to 64.  But just 6 flint?!   I'd consider the bloomery if it would do at least 24 or 32.

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Hate to bring this back up, curious though. I've found two black coal deposits and dug underneath of them, and there was no fire clay in either.

Does it not always spawn under? Is it more than 3-4 blocks under it? Is is not necessarily underneath it but more to the north/south etc? It  is probably less work to use flint but I'm just trying to figure out why I haven't found a single one under two coal deposits now.

Edit: I went looking for Halite in my highest rated area, ended up finding anthracite with clay near it, and as I went to look at it found Limonite vein, a Magnetite vein, and the Halite. Wow....haha

SO anyways guess its just a chance? Who knows.

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34 minutes ago, Cattastrafy said:

Hate to bring this back up, curious though. I've found two black coal deposits and dug underneath of them, and there was no fire clay in either.

Does it not always spawn under? Is it more than 3-4 blocks under it? Is is not necessarily underneath it but more to the north/south etc? It  is probably less work to use flint but I'm just trying to figure out why I haven't found a single one under two coal deposits now.

your observation matches what I'm finding as well, not all black coal deposits have fire clay under.  and when i've found fire clay it has been under the coal. (except in bauxite)

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On 1/24/2025 at 4:24 PM, StCatharines said:

Flint is a kind of chert, and both are indeed almost entirely quartz, so it would make perfect sense and ease the burden on flint in-game.

I live in a chert area, and I haven't found any fireclay under this coal deposit I'm digging out... yet.

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24 minutes ago, Facethief said:

I live in a chert area, and I haven't found any fireclay under this coal deposit I'm digging out... yet.

Update: it was in a perfectly straight line on the edge of the deposit. I am very confused.

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