RationallyParanoid Posted April 1, 2023 Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 Is there a trick to finding Kimberlite and Phyllite? I'd like to use some for a build but I've had no luck locating it, and I haven't found anything in the handbook to help either. Any help would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution dakko Posted April 1, 2023 Solution Report Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) Apparently an understanding of rock strata is helpful in finding different rocks. I'll be interested to see the replies here, as this is something I've been unable to grasp on my own. Meanwhile, here is the wiki page (kimberlite is an igneous rock, and phyllite is metamorphic): https://wiki.vintagestory.at/index.php/Rock EDIT: Btw, kimberlite can only be made into cobblestone (and polished stone). It can only contain chromium, titanium and uranium so that might help narrow it down if using the propick. Edited April 1, 2023 by dakko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLi Posted April 2, 2023 Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 I have found my kimberlite above a very interesting formation: ideal circle of lava pool with ideal sphere above. I.e. spherical round cave with lava on its bottom side - half a ball of air next to mantle. The kimberlite had dome form with ~15 blocks diameter above this cave, going up to sedimentary layer. Generation of 1.16. The only time I have met phyllite was when looking very deep for iron, and it also had something unusual: phyllite was under igneous layer. It was a border between granite and andesite provinces, when granite plateau is on the bottom, and andesite is going on top of the granite. Phyllite was supposed to be the metamorphic layer of granite, i.e. above any igneous, a very small patch, but actually in this area it was above granite but UNDER andesite. And even worse: on the very edge of granite - phyllite was placed on the mantle. With igneous andesite above it. All this is quite understandable if looking into the JSON for rock strata: phyllite - unlike all other metamorphs - is generated bottom-up instead of top-down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenLi Posted April 2, 2023 Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 20 hours ago, dakko said: Meanwhile, here is the wiki page (kimberlite is an igneous rock, and phyllite is metamorphic): https://wiki.vintagestory.at/index.php/Rock There's an error in wiki: bauxite is stated as sedimentary while in game's JSON for rock strata it is metamorphic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmind Posted April 2, 2023 Report Share Posted April 2, 2023 (edited) I have been having trouble finding these two aswell. Pic related is some kimberlite I found underneath andesite sand in a granite desert. Pretty interesting. As far as I know kimberlite can be very deep, you will never see it on the surface. It is a host for diamond so you might see that show up with propick? As for phylite I have had great difficulty finding it. As far as my understanding goes it is located in the same types of areas you would find slate/marble. Hope this helps. Edited April 2, 2023 by Parmind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfinn Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 19 hours ago, BenLi said: I have found my kimberlite above a very interesting formation: ideal circle of lava pool with ideal sphere above. I.e. spherical round cave with lava on its bottom side - half a ball of air next to mantle. The kimberlite had dome form with ~15 blocks diameter above this cave, going up to sedimentary layer. Generation of 1.16. Nice. Apart from the cave, that's pretty much the most common hypothesis for the formation of kimberlite pipes, maybe even dikes, though those are on the top end of what that kind of phenomenon should produce, But, yeah roots down into the mantle. IRL, lit will likely be within peridotite or basalt. 3 hours ago, Parmind said: As far as my understanding goes it is located in the same types of areas you would find slate/marble. Again, nice. Not so sure about the marble, which is a metamorphic limestone, but phyllite is metamorphic slate, which is metamorphic shale, which is metamorphic clay or claystone. IRL, you expect to find phyllite towards the bottom edge of deeper deposits of slate. Sounds like the team did a decent job getting the petrology correct. One of the few quibbles is every sample of olivine in my real life collection is in a basaltic matrix, and despite mining a lot of basalt in the game, have never encountered any olivine. If I'm remembering the Handbook, it can't even form there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted April 3, 2023 Report Share Posted April 3, 2023 19 hours ago, Parmind said: I have been having trouble finding these two aswell. Pic related is some kimberlite I found underneath andesite sand in a granite desert. Pretty interesting. As far as I know kimberlite can be very deep, you will never see it on the surface. It is a host for diamond so you might see that show up with propick? As for phylite I have had great difficulty finding it. As far as my understanding goes it is located in the same types of areas you would find slate/marble. Hope this helps. What you picture is the best way I know of for finding kimberlite. As I understand rock strata generation for kimberlite "pushes up" the rock strata above it producing the odd surface generation pictured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 I'm having a nightmare of a time trying to find phylite. It's needed for the colorful dry stone blocks but it seems impossible to find. I've traversed tens of thousands of blocks of the world, regularly digging down to check beneath any sedimentary areas I find, but I've never found a single block of it. I wish it wasn't so rare, given that you can't make one of the prettiest blocks in the game without it... And also it's such a nice color of stone for building! When I saw this thread I was hoping to find some secret tip for locating some but it sounds like it's down to sheer luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Posted April 6, 2023 Report Share Posted April 6, 2023 23 hours ago, Ari said: it sounds like it's down to sheer luck... Pretty much. Go forth and be lucky! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RationallyParanoid Posted April 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 Hi everyone! Thank you all for commenting and letting me know that you also have struggled locating these elusive rock types I'm gonna try locating them via the ores that can spawn in them so fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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