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hstone32 Ironsmith

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I didn't know entire peat patches could ignite and burn. Those must have been some pyrotechnics-

I've wondered if maybe they should make it so that peat has to be dried out before it can burn. That way, at least you wouldn't lose a fuel source to a very unfortunately placed lightning strike. Also, considering peat generates in wet areas live rivers or marshes, it doesn't really make sense for it to be flamable while still in the ground.

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Thorfinn Historian

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1 hour ago, Facethief said:

This seems to happen an awful lot…

Especially if you turn lightning fires on. Those fires will spread through the grass, unerringly seeking out the nearest peat.

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3 hours ago, hstone32 said:

I've wondered if maybe they should make it so that peat has to be dried out before it can burn. That way, at least you wouldn't lose a fuel source to a very unfortunately placed lightning strike. Also, considering peat generates in wet areas live rivers or marshes, it doesn't really make sense for it to be flamable while still in the ground.

I like it, though I wonder if perhaps the burn time could be improved a bit to compensate. 🤔 That way instead of being an unrenewable fuel that burns slightly hotter and slightly shorter than firewood, it could be just a little bit better than firewood overall. Firewood still retains value as it's a fuel that can be available instantly, in pretty much every climate.

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Teh Pizza Lady Steel Worker

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11 hours ago, LadyWYT said:

I like it, though I wonder if perhaps the burn time could be improved a bit to compensate. 🤔 That way instead of being an unrenewable fuel that burns slightly hotter and slightly shorter than firewood, it could be just a little bit better than firewood overall. Firewood still retains value as it's a fuel that can be available instantly, in pretty much every climate.

Firewood also retains value as it's the only renewable fuel source AND it can turn into charcoal which is pretty much the most versatile fuel source.

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49 minutes ago, Teh Pizza Lady said:

Firewood also retains value as it's the only renewable fuel source AND it can turn into charcoal

Well technically, charcoal is renewable too since it's made from firewood. And there are other combustible organics that technically count as renewable fuel(like grass), but they aren't exactly useful as fuel, most of the time. 🤪

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38 minutes ago, LadyWYT said:

Well technically, charcoal is renewable too since it's made from firewood. And there are other combustible organics that technically count as renewable fuel(like grass), but they aren't exactly useful as fuel, most of the time. 🤪

Okay be technical. Peat is also renewable since you can just duplication glitch 🤪

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27 minutes ago, Teh Pizza Lady said:

Okay be technical. Peat is also renewable since you can just duplication glitch 🤪

That's the one where you have to circle a tree three times, eat a bowl of turnip stew(ONLY turnips--any other ingredients will cause this to fail), squawk like a chicken, stand on your head, and then dig a hole exactly 50 blocks to the north of your location to find the duplicated peat, right?

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Teh Pizza Lady Steel Worker

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16 minutes ago, LadyWYT said:

That's the one where you have to circle a tree three times, eat a bowl of turnip stew(ONLY turnips--any other ingredients will cause this to fail), squawk like a chicken, stand on your head, and then dig a hole exactly 50 blocks to the north of your location to find the duplicated peat, right?

Yes, but you have to wait exactly 1 minute and 5.27 seconds before digging or the duplicated items will spawn somewhere else. No one has been able to find a pattern to this yet, so it's recommended that you get a stopwatch from your local sporting good store before attempting this glitch.

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Maelstrom Historian

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12 hours ago, Michael Gates said:

ONE OF US
ONE OF US

Everybody does it once. Some do it twice. I don't know anybody who admits to three, but I know you're out there.

Speak for yourself.   I learned the dangers of pit kilns way back in 1.15 when my wood fence kept disappearing.   Caught it on fire once, figured it out and ever since my pit kilns have always been encircled by a ring of cobblestone or, at the very least, grass within 2 blocks of the pit kiln gets obliterated.

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Imateo452 Wolf Bait

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20 hours ago, hstone32 said:

I didn't know entire peat patches could ignite and burn. Those must have been some pyrotechnics-

I've wondered if maybe they should make it so that peat has to be dried out before it can burn. That way, at least you wouldn't lose a fuel source to a very unfortunately placed lightning strike. Also, considering peat generates in wet areas live rivers or marshes, it doesn't really make sense for it to be flamable while still in the ground.

in an essence they should , peat really is more like "coal mud" and it does need to dry before it can be used in real life where after it's kinda like charcoal.

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1 hour ago, Maelstrom said:

Speak for yourself.   I learned the dangers of pit kilns way back in 1.15 when my wood fence kept disappearing.   Caught it on fire once, figured it out and ever since my pit kilns have always been encircled by a ring of cobblestone or, at the very least, grass within 2 blocks of the pit kiln gets obliterated.

I don't remember who it was, but I recall reading a post of some poor soul building their pit kilns underneath their tool racks.

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16 hours ago, FairyKairi said:

I had a world a few weeks ago where I lost FOUR peat veins that were fairly near each other thanks to lighting a pit kiln, lol.  The unfairness of having fire spread on.

in a way you could say it makes for an early prospecting pic, what really surprised me more than the vein size was the depth of it its like 5 blocks deep from the surface. 
as you may imagine i died in the peat fire but was surprised to see my items intact and i hope they dont change that.

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34 minutes ago, LadyWYT said:

I don't remember who it was, but I recall reading a post of some poor soul building their pit kilns underneath their tool racks.

Not me.   Although I might recall putting a tool rack above a pit kiln in my dirt hut back when I made dirt huts.   But my dirt hut usage is ancient history so I could be thinking of the poor sod you are.

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hstone32 Ironsmith

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4 hours ago, LadyWYT said:

That's the one where you have to circle a tree three times, eat a bowl of turnip stew(ONLY turnips--any other ingredients will cause this to fail), squawk like a chicken, stand on your head, and then dig a hole exactly 50 blocks to the north of your location to find the duplicated peat, right?

This reminds me of the old gaming cheats websites from the early 2000s

"to unlock the golden arrows, go to the northwest room of the forrest temple and blow pourself up with bombs. Turn off the game amd get a hammer. Hit your cartridge until it breaks into 3 pieces. Bake at 450f for 27 minutes. When you boot the game again, your arrows will now be golden arrows."

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4 hours ago, Teh Pizza Lady said:

Yes, but you have to wait exactly 1 minute and 5.27 seconds before digging or the duplicated items will spawn somewhere else. No one has been able to find a pattern to this yet, so it's recommended that you get a stopwatch from your local sporting good store before attempting this glitch.

Oh, that duplication glitch. I thought that got patched out several versions ago.

1 hour ago, LadyWYT said:

I don't remember who it was, but I recall reading a post of some poor soul building their pit kilns underneath their tool racks.

It wasn't me that did that twice because he couldn't remember where he put his tool rack with copper tools, and that looked like a great place.

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Professor Dragon Steel Worker

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I have turned off lightning damage long ago, as my whole nicely curated landscape was being pock-marked with craters from unstable ground near my base, and forest fires.

And after a massive amount of play on this world, I have just turned off fire spread, because even though I think I understand the issues, at this point I don't want to risk my massive wooden house to something as silly as an accidental fire.

Maybe when I go wandering on a long expedition, I'll turn both back on.

See:
https://wiki.vintagestory.at/List_of_server_commands/serverconfig

/serverconfig allowfirespread [bool]
Enable/Disable spread of fire

https://wiki.vintagestory.at/World_Configuration
/worldconfig lightningFires [true|false]
If true, lightning can cause wildfires in dry conditions (default: false).

This one I still have on. Still, it is a surprise when lightning hits you in your cellar because you don't have a lightning rod:

/worldconfigcreate bool lightningDamage [true|false]
Whether or not the lightning does damage on strikes.

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35 minutes ago, Professor Dragon said:

I have turned off lightning damage long ago, as my whole nicely curated landscape was being pock-marked with craters from unstable ground near my base, and forest fires.

And after a massive amount of play on this world, I have just turned off fire spread, because even though I think I understand the issues, at this point I don't want to risk my massive wooden house to something as silly as an accidental fire.

Maybe when I go wandering on a long expedition, I'll turn both back on.

See:
https://wiki.vintagestory.at/List_of_server_commands/serverconfig

/serverconfig allowfirespread [bool]
Enable/Disable spread of fire

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Not so long ago, the whole interior of my newly constructed castle was burned down by a pit-kiln fire because I though a two blocks distance was enough... I ended up reloading my save because it was in the middle of winter and I could not bother rebuilding everything with materials I didn't have.

Luckily for me, peat doesn't spawn as high as the 60°N latitude.

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