r3g Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 This is my current enclosure for chickens, but winter has come and I've read online in some places that it might not be enough. Various sources have have conflicting statements that animals can climb fences if there's snow, that they can't, or that animals don't pathfind over fences regardless. Does anyone have a definitive answer to this? It would be much appreciated!
LadyWYT Posted December 26, 2025 Report Posted December 26, 2025 53 minutes ago, r3g said: Various sources have have conflicting statements that animals can climb fences if there's snow, that they can't, or that animals don't pathfind over fences regardless. It's variable, really, and if you're playing with mods some modded creatures are able to climb fences. In vanilla though, animals aren't supposed to be able to climb over fences, but that doesn't mean that a lurking bug won't produce the occasional escapee. Based on what I see in your screenshot though, you should be fine. It looks similar to the coops I typically build, except bigger.
r3g Posted December 26, 2025 Author Report Posted December 26, 2025 Thank you for the clarification! I've just got chickens in here lol, no mods. They deserve a big home
Dilan Rona Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 I had a few cases of chicks escaping tbh. and when its snowing, I generally take the precaution to make the fence 2x higher, with a double gate at the entrance (whether its snowing or not). 1
pigfood Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 I don't see a lightning rod. I've had my entire chicken population wiped out multiple times. Is there forest nearby? Bears can kill your chicken through the fence. Animals can step on each other and glitch over/through fences. Chicken try run from you, bears, wolves and may panic-aggregate in a single spot causing that issue. You may want to keep a backup rooster somewhere. Beyond escaping, roosters can also completely wipe each other out, if you are unlucky. 2
CastIronFabric Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 21 hours ago, r3g said: This is my current enclosure for chickens, but winter has come and I've read online in some places that it might not be enough. Various sources have have conflicting statements that animals can climb fences if there's snow, that they can't, or that animals don't pathfind over fences regardless. Does anyone have a definitive answer to this? It would be much appreciated! agreed on the conflicting statements. I have read the same conflicts leaving me perplex. That said, I have witnessed a fox jump into my single fence height without there even being snow. I think he stepped over a dead animal. Regardless, I used double high fences and problem went away.
CastIronFabric Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, sushieater said: I don't see a lightning rod. I've had my entire chicken population wiped out multiple times. Is there forest nearby? Bears can kill your chicken through the fence. Animals can step on each other and glitch over/through fences. Chicken try run from you, bears, wolves and may panic-aggregate in a single spot causing that issue. You may want to keep a backup rooster somewhere. Beyond escaping, roosters can also completely wipe each other out, if you are unlucky. so basically you are saying no fences period? because even at 10 fence high animals can glitch thru? Problem is I heard that they also need sunlight, so put them in a walled greenhouse? I have no idea what the best action is , someone really needs to set the record 100000% straight on this, I have played for 1000 hours now and have only had one pen for about 20 hours of that because I have no idea how we are supposed to do this. Edited December 27, 2025 by CastIronFabric
Michael Gates Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 42 minutes ago, CastIronFabric said: so basically you are saying no fences period? because even at 10 fence high animals can glitch thru? Problem is I heard that they also need sunlight, so put them in a walled greenhouse? Regular, 1-high fences are fine for keeping animals on this side or that side, IN MOST CONDITIONS. The exceptions are: 1) Putting a raised block next to the fence. If you've got your fence, and there's a raised block on one side, animals can go over the fence from that side. This is useful sometimes, because you can make a fenced pen and then drive goats and stuff into it. 2) Snow. Snow can pile up so that animals can climb on the snow, and then walk over the fence. 3) Bears. Bears can *reach* over a 1-high fence to strike animals on the other side, even if they can't get to them. Cases #2 and 3 can both be prevented by using 2-high fence. I have never seen animals "glitch" through a fence. 1
CastIronFabric Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Michael Gates said: Regular, 1-high fences are fine for keeping animals on this side or that side, IN MOST CONDITIONS. The exceptions are: 1) Putting a raised block next to the fence. If you've got your fence, and there's a raised block on one side, animals can go over the fence from that side. This is useful sometimes, because you can make a fenced pen and then drive goats and stuff into it. 2) Snow. Snow can pile up so that animals can climb on the snow, and then walk over the fence. 3) Bears. Bears can *reach* over a 1-high fence to strike animals on the other side, even if they can't get to them. Cases #2 and 3 can both be prevented by using 2-high fence. I have never seen animals "glitch" through a fence. ok, that is what I have been doing. two fence high. I have seen a fox jump over a dead animal using single high fence.
Zane Mordien Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Michael Gates said: ) Snow. Snow can pile up so that animals can climb on the snow, and then walk over the fence. I don't see this happen myself. What animals do you see doing this? I am currently playing snowball earth and I have musk ox and a moose fenced in. There is tons of snow on the ground and they can't jump over. 1
CastIronFabric Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 10 minutes ago, Zane Mordien said: I don't see this happen myself. What animals do you see doing this? I am currently playing snowball earth and I have musk ox and a moose fenced in. There is tons of snow on the ground and they can't jump over. I have seen a fox jump over a dead animal it killed. I think maybe if an animal is 2 blocks high anything obstructing that second block might prevent it? just thinking out loud I do not know
LadyWYT Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 6 hours ago, sushieater said: I don't see a lightning rod. I've had my entire chicken population wiped out multiple times. Oh, that's a great point. I always forget that's a thing, but yeah, a lightning rod is a must given how fragile chickens are.
r3g Posted December 27, 2025 Author Report Posted December 27, 2025 (edited) Well, it's getting closer to spring, and so far no chickens have jumped over the fence. I think it's safe to say that fences are viable to keep chickens in. Edited December 27, 2025 by r3g
r3g Posted December 27, 2025 Author Report Posted December 27, 2025 7 hours ago, sushieater said: I don't see a lightning rod. I've had my entire chicken population wiped out multiple times. Is there forest nearby? Bears can kill your chicken through the fence. Animals can step on each other and glitch over/through fences. Chicken try run from you, bears, wolves and may panic-aggregate in a single spot causing that issue. You may want to keep a backup rooster somewhere. Beyond escaping, roosters can also completely wipe each other out, if you are unlucky. No forest nearby, and I've set up a lightning rod since posting this thread. I've only ever had lightning once in this world though so I'm not sure if I even needed to do that. I don't really have much fauna spawning around my baes anyways, I have to go a few hundred blocks to hunt and whatnot. I'll take your advice with the rooster stuff though, thank you.
Diff Posted December 27, 2025 Report Posted December 27, 2025 Unfortunately I can't speak for snow and other edge cases, but in the normal case while they can't climb fences, they can phase through them sometimes. https://www.vintagestory.at/forums/topic/16839-livestock-escaping-closed-barn/#findComment-88846 1
Zane Mordien Posted December 28, 2025 Report Posted December 28, 2025 2 hours ago, Diff said: Unfortunately I can't speak for snow and other edge cases, but in the normal case while they can't climb fences, they can phase through them sometimes. https://www.vintagestory.at/forums/topic/16839-livestock-escaping-closed-barn/#findComment-88846 I can't reproduce that in Vannila. I can load as many chickens as I want into a pen and they never do that.
Diff Posted December 28, 2025 Report Posted December 28, 2025 2 hours ago, Zane Mordien said: I can't reproduce that in Vannila. I can load as many chickens as I want into a pen and they never do that. I should have double checked before posting. That was (effectively) vanilla in that recording, so maybe a now-fixed bug, since I'm now also able to have my own boiling sea of birds safely contained by fence boilingseas.mp4 5
Zane Mordien Posted December 28, 2025 Report Posted December 28, 2025 1 minute ago, Diff said: I'm now also able to have my own boiling sea of birds safely contained by fence That... is a lot of chickens.
r3g Posted December 28, 2025 Author Report Posted December 28, 2025 9 hours ago, Diff said: I should have double checked before posting. That was (effectively) vanilla in that recording, so maybe a now-fixed bug, since I'm now also able to have my own boiling sea of birds safely contained by fence boilingseas.mp4 2.3 MB · 1 download what the hell HAHAHA
Bumber Posted December 28, 2025 Report Posted December 28, 2025 On 12/27/2025 at 5:19 AM, CastIronFabric said: Problem is I heard that they also need sunlight, so put them in a walled greenhouse? It doesn't have to be sunlight, but they will despawn if left in insufficient light for too long. 18 hours ago, Diff said: I should have double checked before posting. That was (effectively) vanilla in that recording, so maybe a now-fixed bug, since I'm now also able to have my own boiling sea of birds safely contained by fence Do they stay contained when leaving the area and returning later? I've always assumed unloading chunks was an aggravating factor.
Diff Posted December 29, 2025 Report Posted December 29, 2025 5 hours ago, Bumber said: Do they stay contained when leaving the area and returning later? I've always assumed unloading chunks was an aggravating factor. Good question, I built a new bird sea on the corner between 4 chunks and tried to recreate 2000's stop motion classic Chicken Run. I tried zipping back and forth across a few hundred blocks, no escapees. In case it's a combination of distance and time, I tried parking myself 3, 4, 5, 10, 11, 12, 13 chunks away and stepping back towards the chickens, still no escapees. I found an outdated reference to a default loaded chunk radius of 12, which is why the gap's there. They made an ungodly sound in unison when I got back in range, but no escapees. Video of the testing setup in case anyone has any suggestions for improvement: Chicken Supermax.mp4 2
williams_482 Posted December 29, 2025 Report Posted December 29, 2025 The patch notes for 1.21 said they had fixed the issues with animals phasing through blocks when the player is far enough away to unload their chunks. I'd say your testing confirms that they succeeded. 2
Valsalan Posted December 30, 2025 Report Posted December 30, 2025 In my experience I find that having two high fences is generally best because it both keeps animals from jumping over the fences during winter when snow builds up, but it also means that bowtorn have a much harder time of shooting you when you walk outside, assuming your base isn't beneath some cliffs (two high fences wouldn't help you then). Personally I find that having a base fence of stone wall with a wooden fence on top of it (especially the rough fences) looks really nice, and makes for a very cozy vibe when inside them. As can be seen in this build:
ArgentLuna Posted December 30, 2025 Report Posted December 30, 2025 On 12/28/2025 at 1:15 AM, Michael Gates said: I have never seen animals "glitch" through a fence. Never seen them do it but i see the results all the time (or the lack of animal being the result)
Zane Mordien Posted December 30, 2025 Report Posted December 30, 2025 9 hours ago, Valsalan said: two high fences is generally best because it both keeps animals from jumping over the fences during winter when snow builds up, but it also means that bowtorn have a much harder time of shooting you when you walk outside The snow doesn't impact them from my experience. The baby animals can popcorn out when you scare them into a corner, but not even 3 high fences will stop that the last time I checked. You can put the fence in the ground so it barely sticks above the ground and animals can't easily cross it. A bear will just run up to it and look at you.
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